Residents of a small Selwyn community say they will keep fighting to save their homes after being told they must vacate them by 2039.

The district council last month voted to confirm the eviction of the entire Upper Selwyn Huts settlement on the shores of Lake Ellesmere because of the impact of climate change.

  • @liv
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    72 months ago

    It’s not even leaseshold proper. It’s baches on crown land with licenses that need renewing every 5 years. Some of them have until June 2024 and others another 15 years.

    The thing is, no one was allowed to actually live in them full time until 2015. So I think what’s happened is people thought cool, an affordable way to have a house, poured all their money in and then this… but yeah they’ve known for years.

    By “climate change” specifically the flooding means the council can’t give it a sewerage and wastewater system. People can be really deep in denial about climate stuff; you try to warn them and they think it’s “political”. Smh.

    (I was just curious and read a bunch of articles to get a better picture. This from 2019 sets most of it out).

    • @DaveOPMA
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      42 months ago

      That looks like it’s about a nearby settlement (Selwyn Hutts) that is being kicked out next year. This article is about Upper Selwyn Hutts, a separate settlement. They probably thought they were safe, though surely they would be starting to get the hint.

      Weird though that your article has people say they poured all their money into it, but also say their family has owned the hut for 100 years. Maybe I’m misunderstanding their point.

      But realistically, it seems crazy to pour all your money into a house that only gets it’s lease extended for 5 years at a time! I guess the lesson is that cheap houses are cheap for a reason.

      • @Ilovethebomb
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        42 months ago

        Situations where you don’t own the land under your home are always a bit messy, in my view.

        • @DaveOPMA
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          52 months ago

          Yeah, though I think typically leasehold is on long terms (like 100 years). If you build a house at the start of that 100 years you get your money’s worth. But if the 100 years is ending in 5 or 10 years, you’d be pretty careful about what you spent on the place.

        • @absGeekNZ
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          22 months ago

          The major problem with lease hold, is that picking up a house and moving it to a new lease is extremely difficult and expensive or just impossible. Unless your house is a transportable by design.

          So when the lease holder decides to increase the cost of the lease (usually by a lot), you are effectively trapped.

          Contrast that with leasing a building for a business, if the lease holder decides to increase you lease, you can just move your business…it may be difficult and expensive but it is never impossible.

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        2 months ago

        Oh, sorry, my bad, didn’t notice the two names. These are the ones who are out in June?

        I am so confused by this hut system. It just doesn’t seem like a good idea.

        • @DaveOPMA
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          2 months ago

          It sounds like there may be 4 settlements with similar names in the same area!

          The hut system is definitely not a good idea by modern standards, but it’s 100 years old and runs on a similar system to other leasehold land. I even got the impression that perhaps the 5 year renewal cycle is reasonably new. Perhaps it started as 100 year then when it came up for renewal the council switched to 5 yearly while they worked out what to do.

          • @liv
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            22 months ago

            Yeah it would have been fine back in the day, when there was housing for everyone.