Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee ® on Wednesday said 2024 will be the last election “decided by ballots rather than bullets” if former President Trump doesn’t win the presidential race because of his various legal battles.

In the latest episode of his show on TBN, Huckabee argued the legal woes now facing Trump are part of a politically motivated scheme from the Biden administration, an argument touted by many in the former president’s orbit.

“If these tactics end up working to keep Trump from winning or even running in 2024, it is going to be the last American election that will be decided by ballots rather than bullets,” Huckabee warned in his opening monologue.

Huckabee accused President Biden and his team of trying “to make sure that Donald Trump is not his opponent in 2024″ and “to destroy Trump in the courthouse rather than at the ballot box.” He also alleged the Justice Department, the IRS and the FBI are “conspiring to hide the Biden family crimes, while all the time being obsessed with charging Donald Trump with crimes.”

    • Taleya@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      126
      ·
      10 months ago

      Seriously. They’re just gonna keep doing this dancing on the edges bullshit until someone comes down on them fucking hard.

      • btaf45@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        75
        ·
        10 months ago

        The Prison Boys leader who just got 22 years in prison admitted he knew all along that Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump did not win the election. The media needs to point out the obvious. That the Prison Boys and Oathbreakers are Tory militia groups who were trying to destroy the Founding Father’s government and reestablish a dictatorship/monarchy.

        • orclev@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          31
          ·
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          No, that’s what they’re counting on. That certainly wouldn’t stop them since that’s the point of the entire exercise. Although this particular example comes dangerously close to dancing over the line into incitement if it doesn’t already.

    • mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      Feels like pretty strong linkages to obstruction of justice if you’re trying to brazenly influence the outcome of a trial under the threat of violence.

    • BlanketsWithSmallpox@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      28
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      The amount of Republicans that have no idea how strapped Democrats are is too damn high lol. While I’d love c/liberalgunowners to be as high as Republicans but, it’s not THAT much of a numbers difference. 6/10 of Republicans live in a gun household vs 1/4 Democrats. Republicans usually sit at 40% of the pop vs Democrats at 50%.

      Then they’ll be fighting against the damn US Military with only the really full on bat shit Republicans. Jan 6th already showed us how many actually wanted to nut up. Hey, turns out not that many! There’s a reason why there was a whopping 2, 3-star generals, RETIRED, that came out in favor of Trump. People think the military is filled with nothing but Republicans too, but Joe Biden beat Trump by 4 points in the military in 2020 lol.

      The crazy fucks had their chance on January 6th already lol. Sorry people, it’s not going to be a civil war. It’s going to be increasing amounts of Republican extremism like it already has been for the last decade and more.

      In the United States in 2022, 48 percent of Republicans reported that they owned at least one gun, and 66 percent said that they lived in a household with a gun. In comparison, only 20 percent of Democrats owned at least one gun, and 31 percent lived a gun household.

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/249775/percentage-of-population-in-the-us-owning-a-gun-by-party-affiliation/

      Pew Graph

      https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/06/22/the-demographics-of-gun-ownership/

      • BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        10 months ago

        The military is also really split along certain lines when it comes to D vs R. Higher ranks tend to have more education and some vote along their education lines. More junior people seem to follow point of entry political lines (which for many is admittedly the south but not all).

        • Reptorian@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          10 months ago

          There’s the observation that younger people are much more likely to be liberal. Which explains why the military voted Democratic. And the more educated wing of the military are more Democratic. Essentially, the military is arguably increasingly liberal over time.

          • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            10 months ago

            Veterans are also more likely to learn left. I’m not sure if that’s cause of what we saw, or because half the wannabe Rambo types got themselves killed, but the majority of people who survived tend to go left.

        • BigNote@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          The senior officer corps of the US military despises Trump, for obvious reasons.

      • Pratai@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        10 months ago

        Liberals/democrats have better trigger discipline and training. I’d guarantee it. They could outnumber 10-1 but they also kill one another and themselves too often to not be a statistic to consider in this.

    • stigmata@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      19
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      Luckily most Trumpers wouldn’t last more than a few minutes in a firefight before they run out of breath.

  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    113
    ·
    10 months ago

    He also alleged the Justice Department, the IRS and the FBI are “conspiring to hide the Biden family crimes, while all the time being obsessed with charging Donald Trump with crimes.”

    Did all those supposed Biden crimes occur since 2020? No? Then why did the Trump administration let these supposed crimes go uninvestigated?

    • PunnyName@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      10 months ago

      Anyone who says “Biden crime family” or a similar variant / transposition unironically, I have to ignore.

      For my own sanity.

    • Countess425@lemmy.world
      cake
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      Not to mention Hunter Biden is getting his in court? It’s just boring tax fraud and a gun charge, tho, so nobody cares. Also he never worked for the government in any capacity ever.

    • orbitz@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      Well it would be the perfect Trump response to know of Biden’s crimes (not that there’s any evidence of the current President commiting any) and then ask (edit: blackmail…again messed up, extort) Ukraine to help him rather than asking why the legal system is not taking action. Like what you’d expect the D student in class thinking is the correct response to a situation.

      Of course then you have to forget that there were some people intelligent enough in the administration to figure it out.

    • Pratai@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      29
      ·
      10 months ago

      An extremely violent one at that. Now, let’s watch how quickly nothing continues to happen as a result of it.

    • gamer@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      Maybe the Trump case sets some kind of new precedent that means desperate politicians using violent rhetoric like this will face real consequences?

  • LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world
    cake
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    103
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    His daughter is governor of a state. He was governor of a state. These are the kinds of people republicans are voting for office- do not let republicans get away with bastardizing the meaning of patriot. They are traitors at worst or traitor sympathizers at best.

    • be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      10 months ago

      Yep. I will die of old age before there is any chance of a Republican ever deserving my vote, or of the Republican party convincing me that they have moved on from fascism.

      It would be like science fiction.

  • Sanctus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    81
    ·
    10 months ago

    Lets play a game. How many elected republican officials can threaten civil war before they are barred from office?

      • Beetschnapps@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        21
        ·
        10 months ago

        Hey now if you can’t smear shit on the capitol and try to hang the VP then according to sarah palin ‘What’s The Use In Being A Good Guy?’

  • Hazdaz@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    68
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    10 months ago

    These aren’t even veiled threats anymore. These are actual, out-in-the-open threats and they continue to happen because Democrats aren’t doing anything about them.

    Within hours of Huckabee making these threats, the FBI or Secret Service should be parading him in the streets with handcuffs on as they bring him in for questioning. Make an example of him, Palin and all the other right wing lunatics that are threatening our democracy.

    But as usual, we give right wing lunatics a free-pass and then wonder why they continue to escalate this issue.

    • TechyDad@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      36
      ·
      10 months ago

      And meanwhile, Trump is openly stating that his second term would be a revenge tour where he’ll arrest anyone who opposes him. He doesn’t care if there are any actual crimes committed because he thinks opposing him is a crime in itself.

      • Hazdaz@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        23
        ·
        10 months ago

        Thus fascism. And a good 1/4 to 1/3 of the country agrees with him, and the remaining 3/4 to 2/3 of the country either have no idea what is happening or are too busy bickering amongst themselves.

    • reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      29
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      We will look back on the Dems the same way we look at the socdems in Germany who put up almost no resistance to the Nazis coming to power. I’d love to be wrong.

      • Hazdaz@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        10 months ago

        I unfortunately have to agree to some extent.

        There are so few Dems out there who are willing to duke it out with the Right. I don’t blame Biden for not stooping down to the level of tweeting insults to the Right. He’s president and thus should appear presidential not like his clown of a predecessor. But for fucks sakes there should be someone in the Democratic party that instigates the Right and is willing to play dirty and call them out on their shit. AOC was a firecracker and even when I disagreed with her, I loved that she would duke it out with any Republican. But there are so few others.

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      10 months ago

      Terroristic threats, in my mind. I don’t understand why we let them get away with shit like this.

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      I’m not sure that’s wise. Using authoritarian tactics on them is just going to amplify their persecution complex, and create an opportunity for martyrdom.

      The best we can do here is point out the dangerous language, and get these people under surveillance. If and when their followers do make a move, that’s when you build the case and bring them in.

      I can understand the problems of so many spouting these sorts of lies and calls to action, though. It is a serious threat to national security. The solution here is a quick, but well documented trial of Donald Trump and his cronies. Throw anyone in our government (R, D, etc.) that’s violated the law out, and if need be, imprison them.

      We desperately need to make examples of those who are creating instability with their crimes and lies. But they have to break the law in a very clear way, and we need evidence.

      • dangblingus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        Gimme a break. That’s such a pedestrian view of law enforcement. They had no problem raiding Mar A Lago.

        • grue@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          They had no problem raiding Mar A Lago.

          Two years late, after having given Trump myriad undeserved opportunities to get out of it despite him thumbing his nose at them every time instead, and only because the offenses were so egregious that they had no other choice?

    • aidan@lemmy.worldM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      16
      ·
      10 months ago

      This is about as threatening as people advocating “eat the rich” or destroying American imperialism. Threatening a system is not and should not be illegal, only a person.

      • archiotterpup@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        10 months ago

        Not really. Eat the rich comes from the saying “when there’s nothing left to eat, the poor eat the rich”. Huckabee is advocating for actual violence in the name of a conspiracy theory. That’s a false equivalency.

  • Glide@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    60
    ·
    10 months ago

    “If Democracy doesn’t give me the result I want, I’ll turn to Fascism!”

  • knotthatone@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    10 months ago

    Let them try. Trump & his fellow republicans already attempted to violently overthrow our democracy once. Surrendering and allowing them their fever dream of a fascist dictator for life (however much time he’s got left) will not improve our situation.

    • orclev@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      10 months ago

      Republicans, particularly of the Gravy Seals bent, always seem to think they’re the only ones that can own guns or know how to use them. Just because everyone else is sane enough not to be waiving them around or so insecure about themselves that they need to show them off like they’re some kind of security blanket doesn’t mean nobody else is armed. I think if they ever pluck up the courage to try a full scale civil war they’ll quickly realize the tables aren’t going to be anywhere near as one sided as they seem to think.

      • tacosplease@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        10 months ago

        I like how they put their dumb political bullshit all over their vehicles. Someone should set up a database of license plates of vehicles with maga bullshit all over the car. First stop for weapons caches if shit really pops off.

  • Pratai@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    41
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    So… trying to make sure a traitor to America pays for his crimes is somehow wrong?

    Wasn’t the Conservative Party in favor or patriotism?

    • TechyDad@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      10 months ago

      They’re the Law and Order Party - as long as the law is imposing their order on people that they don’t like.

      Just like they’re the Personal Responsibility Party - as long as it’s other people who need to be personally responsible.

    • Signtist@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      10 months ago

      The Republican idea of patriotism is just another flavor of Christianity - blind faith in a power you believe to be bigger than yourself. It used to be faith in America as a concept, unerring and omnipotent - under God, but when things started shifting leftward with the civil rights movement, it became faith in a president to bring things back to their halcyon days. It started with Reagan, and now it’s Trump, who gave them new hope with his slogan of making America great again.

      The Republican idea of patriotism was never about making your country great, it was about believing your country is already great despite all evidence to the contrary - essentially just another religion.

  • Harpsist@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    40
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    America. Are you ok? Blink twice if you need international help.

    Or about just a friend from the north?