Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is sharply protesting against growing criticism from top ally the United States over his leadership amid the war with Hamas.
I agree that the word is appropriate, but it’s also problematic because it has legal definitions that are almost never met. Someone will inevitably argue with the use of the term, and the conversation will be completely derailed by a vocabulary debate
They can argue all they want. I really don’t care.
The legal definitions of genocide are only difficult to meet because they were written by countries with their own histories of genocide. That’s why it’s so hard to prove.
That’s not a standard we need to hold ourselves to.
Out of curiosity, what is the actual limit for an acceptable quantity of genocide? Like, I’m trying to understand if there’s a hard number of murdered civilians that Isreal has to reach before we can make comparisons to the holocaust, or if it’s more just a vibes thing?
Ah yes, I guess this means a “small holocaust” is perfectly fine…
I thought the survivors said NEVER AGAIN. The scale is irrelevant. Israel created one of the biggest manmade famine in histroy at an unprecedented speed. Why destroy all roads and hospitals and stop aid? I’ll let you answer that one.
The US needs to stop funding genocide.
Use the word. It’s important. It’s what it is. This is a modern holocaust happening before our eyes, and we are complicit in it.
I agree that the word is appropriate, but it’s also problematic because it has legal definitions that are almost never met. Someone will inevitably argue with the use of the term, and the conversation will be completely derailed by a vocabulary debate
I just say genocidal actions.
Hard to disagree there
Ignore them. You can’t patent the term genocide
They can argue all they want. I really don’t care.
The legal definitions of genocide are only difficult to meet because they were written by countries with their own histories of genocide. That’s why it’s so hard to prove.
That’s not a standard we need to hold ourselves to.
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Why?
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So one is on a larger scale. Ok then it’s perfectly comparable.
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Well that justifies your actions completely! Carry on then.
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What’s absurd is holding the holocaust to such a standard that we cannot compare it to anything or learn anything from history.
It’s disrespectful to holocaust survivors, this shit I see posted here, especially to the ones saying never again now.
Don’t use the holocaust to make this genocide okay. That’s antisemitic.
So you’re just being pedantic
Technically correct is the best kind of correct
Out of curiosity, what is the actual limit for an acceptable quantity of genocide? Like, I’m trying to understand if there’s a hard number of murdered civilians that Isreal has to reach before we can make comparisons to the holocaust, or if it’s more just a vibes thing?
Ah yes, I guess this means a “small holocaust” is perfectly fine…
I thought the survivors said NEVER AGAIN. The scale is irrelevant. Israel created one of the biggest manmade famine in histroy at an unprecedented speed. Why destroy all roads and hospitals and stop aid? I’ll let you answer that one.
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I think that’s BS. Famine at this scale and speed is not common.
Israel is killing in Gaza at the speed of a large concentration camp at the peak of the Holocaust.
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If you have enough square miles you deprive of food it’s not Genocide?
The definition of Genocide becomes the most arbitrary set of rules ever according to pro-israelis.
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So? Literally one of the worst genocides of this century in terms of speed and impact.
Hey stop being rational, instant emotional reactions only!