• muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    You my friend have been propagandised yourself ukraine without funding will lose. Ukraine with funding will win. Russia is doing eveeything in its power to stop funding. The narative that ukraine has already won/lost is russian propaganda to stop funding.

    Grow up learn how a friggin war works and stop being a shill for russian propaganda.

    • harderian729@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Ukraine with funding will win.

      Just like with their counteroffensive?

      At what point do you people admit you were wrong about something?

      • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        They went for a significant push to try get behind the lines it didnt work cos funding was delayed and they didnt have the reasources earlyer (at that point they where still missing many of the resources they have now). They switched tacktics after that point its called adaptation tends to be needed in war its russias akillies heel. Then with the new stratedgy they where making significant ground on the offensive far greater than what russia has been latly ukrain also managed this with a truly impressive kd ratio.

        I know im not wrong ive looked at the map ive plotted respurces on a graph russias resources have a y intercept as long as ukraine is being funded they do not thus they can sustain the war for longer.

        You my friend are clearly a russian shill even if ukraine is gonna lose its still a more efficient way to fight them than doing it ourselves they will fuck with nato that will cost the western world deerly instead we give ukraine old shit they fight for us and save shitonnes of money since that must be all u care about cos human life clearly doesnt matter to u.

          • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            Either give me a counter to my points.

            Admit that you were wrong about something.

            Or shut the fuck up and admit you have no clue what your talking about.

            Pick one!!!

            Snarky comments is simply u deflecting from your incapability to engage with someone in a civil discussion about a topic you clearly feel very strongly about.

      • Tinidril@midwest.social
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        8 months ago

        The state of the war is about a hell of a lot more than the location of the front lines. How much progress has Afghanistan made in pushing back the American invasion before the Taliban effectively won? Ditto that for the previous Russian invasion.

        The fact that Russia’s entire Black Sea fleet is afraid to leave port is pretty important, especially when it allows Ukraine to continue shipping grain. The ability of Ukraine to strike accurately deep into Russian territory, and the inability of Russia to defend it’s critical infrastructure is also relevant. Corruption drains far more of Russia’s resources than it does Ukraine’s, and authoritarian leadership means frontline units are unable to respond quickly to changing conditions. That’s a small part of why Russian moral is so low that troops must be deployed to shoot frontline troops as they try to escape. That’s not happening on the Ukrainian side.

        It seems to me that Ukraine is still very much in this fight. It’s not like Russian advances have been all that effective.