• rockstarpirate@lemmy.world
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    Where did you get this definition? Look up communism in any standard dictionary or encyclopedia and you will see that it entails the removal of private property.

    Edit: ugh, y’all got me arguing about communism again. I need to go outside.

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      Private property is the capital, the actual means of production. Personal property is your stuff.

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        That’s only true within the sphere of Marxist ideology and is not a widely-held distinction made by the rest of society. i.e., actual current law wherein:

        Private property refers to the ownership of property by private parties - essentially anyone or anything other than the government. Private property may consist of real estate, buildings, objects, intellectual property (copyright, patent, trademark, and trade secrets). The transfer of a private property commonly takes place by the owner’s consent or through a sale or as a gift.

        Outside of Marxist ideology, and in actual practice, individuals are one class of private entity, making personal property a type of private property. The average person can not be expected to fully understand the nuances of how Marxism alters these definitions, nor accept them in practicality.

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          The post is about communism. I’m not sure why you would ask about where the definition came from if you already know how communists view property.

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        Fine.

        Google, define communism:

        a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

        Britannica:

        communism, political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society.

        dictionary.com:

        a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state

        Merriam-Webster:

        a: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed

        b: a theory advocating elimination of private property

        Oxford English Dictionary:

        A theory that advocates the abolition of private ownership, all property being vested in the community

        Remember that it is unnecessary to cite sources when dealing with common knowledge.

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          The person you replied to is also incorrectly representing his side, but basically you need to also understand what ‘private property’ is refering to.

          The vast majority of communists define it as it’s represented in the original meme since they approach communism as an economic strategy and not a social one. Private property as defined by captialist governments only refers to the things listed above like farm, office building, ie. anything that generates capital.

          All other communists who don’t agree on this definition of private property are also disagreeing with Marx himself as this is his set standard.

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          Notice a theme of “private property”? Notice how this meme proved a great differentiation between private property and personal property?

          Have you bothered to see if maybe there is a difference between the two, when engaging in discussions with communists or communist supporters?

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            I’m actually attempting to exit this conversation at the moment. I initially commented when I was having a bad day and would rather that I hadn’t.