I’ve noticed a general sentiment that printing on Linux is (or at least was) extremely cumbersome and difficult. Why is that?

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    2 hours ago

    I use printer with a USB personally. No issues with that but I got an HP printer that is really weird with the network stuff

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    3 hours ago

    my experience is that through network, it’s just flawless. I turned on my printer and sure there it was. (though this feature just became a huge issue recently :P)

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    4 hours ago

    If you have a hp printer they got a official software for it

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    12 hours ago

    I haven’t used a new printer or an inkjet in a number of years now, but using my 18yo HP laserjet is a matter of plugging it in and checking it’s status under the main distro settings menu. That was also on par with the windows process iirc.

    I do remember 20 years ago when I had to sideload pcmcia wifi drivers, though.

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      3 hours ago

      True, i have 20yo hp inkjet and 17yo epson inkjet, old printers work like a charm on linux and you can refill them with standard medical syringe too

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        3 hours ago

        I just started with PopOS a couple years ago. I’m not a power user. I’ve got one of those crappy travel printers. I think it’s Canon? I forget. It worked just fine for me.

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    19 hours ago

    my printer spits out page upon page of random characters and mess when I try to print from my desktop, gave up and use my phone now

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      19 hours ago

      You need to set the correct settings. It takes a few tries but in my experience it isn’t that hard

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        18 hours ago

        you need to set the correct settings

        thanks for the insightful suggestion wowee

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    24 hours ago

    It used to be much, much more difficult than it is today, but your experiences will still vary according to what type of printer you have. The problem is drivers. There are still printers out there that have no working Linux driver (mostly old, non-Postscript-supporting, with no Mac drivers either). Some will work with a generic driver, but some features aren’t available. The more annoying case is the one where the manufacturer put out a driver once, many years ago, it doesn’t work properly with modern versions of CUPS, and they can’t be arsed to revise it.

    But most printers these days will do basic one-sided 100%-size prints out of the box, and that’s all many people need.

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    21 hours ago

    An u until live CD will find my decade old HP laser and print to it without any work.

    Getting my NIXOS to print at the same printer? About an hour.

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          14 hours ago

          No, it is highly reproducible. I think the idea of Nix OS isn’t bad. I actually looked into it for Samba as deploying software on Nix is easy. The problem is that it doesn’t scale well.

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            2 hours ago

            I think Nix is the future. I feel like at some point we could have fedora ublue for all distros by using nix with GUI configs.

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    1 day ago

    HP Laser 107w, driverless, over LAN.

    I just Ctrl+P from any software and it prints.

    It also prints programmatically (for e.g. folk.computer ) thanks to IPP.

    I didn’t have to “think about printing” since I have that setup so I don’t know where you get that sentiment.

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      1 day ago

      Linux printing is very complex. Before Foomatic came along you got to experience it in all it’s glory and setting up a working printing chain was a pain. The Foomatic Wikipedia page has a diagram that will make your head spin.

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        18 hours ago

        No doubt, the kernel itself is also quite complex… but my comment here is on the user experience perspective, namely, for me at least “it just works”. So I’m not trying to imply it will work for anybody flawlessly nor that it’s due to the simplicity of the stack, solely that it works, for me.

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    2 days ago

    That’s not been my experience.

    Granted, printers suuuuuck. But I was legit surprised when both the printing and scanning functions in Linux were hands down better than windows.

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    1 day ago

    I think that used to be the case more than it is now. Linux now uses the same printing system (CUPS) as macOS, and macOS printing has to work or Apple’s customers would be unsatisfied.

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    1 day ago

    Because printing in Linux both works and is supported and not supported and hope that there are drivers and they work.

    For example, I have a brother printer and in both arch and Ubuntu/mint the printer worked out of the box. But I was missing features like double sided printing. So I had to download drivers for it.

    In arch the drivers were on the AUR, so I was printing is seconds.

    In Ubuntu/mint they weren’t in my package manager, so I had to go to brother’s website and hope they had drivers. Brother did and while it took a bit it did work too. No worse than windows.

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    1 day ago

    Anecdotally Windows is the only platform I’ve used where printing (and scanning) didn’t tend to “just work”. The only issue I’ve had printing under Linux was with a second hand printer my dad got that we couldn’t get to print from any computer. (shrug)