• Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    Honestly even with the current situation, I’m seeing call for donations and aid to the affected States who have been hit hard this week. But I think to myself, why should I help these people when they are voting for politicians who are literally refusing federal aid, cause they don’t want to look like they’re accepting Biden’s help. Now my poor ass is s donating to people who are refusing aid at the same time. I hate it

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      That’s kind of narrow minded of you, not every person in the south is a trump loving conservative. That’s the same kind of thinking they have when wildfires affect California, or pandemics hit cities more than rural areas, you have to be better than them and more open-minded.

      Also Asheville, which is now flooded, is one of the most hippy liberal cities in the country.

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        I confirm that ashville is super hippy. If ypu havent been there then im sorry for your loss

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    The funniest thing about this is Trump won’t stop grifting them. Every month is something new. Trump trading cards. Trump shoes. Trump NFTs. Like the moment Harris tries to sale me shoes, I’m out. But these people can’t afford medical care because their Republican state government cut their benefits, so now they are going to send money to a guy who is selling NFTs… Enough said.

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    This is something I see a lot with the houses that have Trump signs in my area. They always have a multitude of run down cars, a house that is falling apart, a bunch of stuff in their yard that are not lawn ornaments, and occasionally are fenced in. It’s pretty consistent and they always have Trump signs and flags even though voting for Harris would likely help them afford to fix up their cars or house.

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    10 hours ago

    naw. Fuedal is the tax guy shows up and demands payment. this is something else.

    Maybe it’s a Fin-dom kink?

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      I dunno, I feel like the hierarchical nature of feudalism is more core than tribute extraction. The lord needs the support of his loyal vassals, while the loyal vassals only need their lord insofar as they crave a ruler over themselves - or over their despised peers, for which they are willing to sacrifice money and dignity, and sometimes even their lives.

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        I agree here. Feudalism to me was a system to maintain order by splitting the kingdom into essentially vassal states that worked relatively independently through a kings central government rules.

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        9 hours ago

        It would be awfully hard for a vassal landholder to get the kind of materials that they can’t produce on their own. Iron, tin, copper, lead; depending on the area, lumber, as well.

        There was also the military presence keeping the brigandry in check (including from other feudal lords.)

        Vassals also exchanged military service for land. (And the serfs that came with it!)

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          It would be awfully hard for a vassal landholder to get the kind of materials that they can’t produce on their own. Iron, tin, copper, lead; depending on the area, lumber, as well.

          Yet most fiefs during the height of feudalism were autarkic, and engaged in minimal trade, much less redistribution from their overlord.

          There was also the military presence keeping the brigandry in check (including from other feudal lords.)

          Considering how rampant brigandry was, dunno how valid that is. As for other feudal lords, those are, of course, the peers they despise.

          Vassals also exchanged military service for land. (And the serfs that came with it!)

          Land could not simply be revoked in most feudal systems, though, and was more often inherited than granted by the overlord.

          None of your points are wrong, necessarily, but I don’t think they’re major compared to the core pillar of “I trust my overlord to oppress me only a moderate amount, while I don’t trust my neighbors not to oppress me a much greater amount, so I would like it very much if my overlord would just oppress everyone. I’ll lick his boots for it.” It becomes especially apparent in Bastard Feudalism of England and in the later feudal system of Japan in which land revenue, rather than land itself, was what was granted to many warrior-vassals.

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        They still needed land, though. Trump’s promise of fossil capitalism might resemble that land, but the whole comparison shakes a bit.

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    8 hours ago

    I mean with all those hurricanes the man’s probably drowning in insurance premiums alone!

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