Prem Thakker's first day on the ground included the DNC’s panel on Palestinian human rights – but did it mean anything? Plus, a quick exchange with Josh Shapiro.

“What was very shocking was that while we were all in the room discussing and listening to people impacted by what’s happening in Gaza, we’re not certain that that message will get across to the people at the top of the party,” Khader added. “You look at the themes of the party’s convention – today, tomorrow, Wednesday, and Thursday – there’s nowhere where Palestinians are included in that narrative.”

While the platform condemned former President Donald Trump for refusing to “endorse the political aspirations of the Palestinian people,” it made no divergence from the status quo policy of vetoing UN Security Council resolutions this year that moved towards Palestinian statehood.

While the platform boasts of being opposed to settler violence, it makes no acknowledgment of the International Court of Justice finding the Israeli government’s occupation and illegal expansions of settlements constitute apartheid.

And to that end, while the platform condemns UN efforts that apparently “single out” Israel, and the Boycott, Divest, and Sanctions movement for the same – apparently ignoring the historical precedent of Americans also boycotting and pushing divestment against fossil fuel companies and apartheid South Africa.

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
      1513·
      3 months ago

      Wow what a beautiful speech. AOC even mentions Kamala “working tirelessly to bring a ceasefire to Gaza”…

      Right after the Biden admin approved $24 Billion in arms shipments to israel.

      Can you timestamp the moment in that video where they bring up putting an arms embargo on israel? Lip service just doesn’t hit the same after 10 months of Genocide.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        128·
        3 months ago

        The Vice President has no say in what the Administration does or doesn’t do. Unless it comes to a 50/50 tie in the Senate, she has no real power at this point.

        • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
          97·
          3 months ago

          Gutless shill. “The party’s nominee to the office of president (the de facto leader of the party) has zero say in their current policies”

          The excuses are becoming as offensive as the genocide itself.

          • WldFyre@lemm.ee
            23·
            2 months ago

            “the party” lol

            What dialectical materialism does to a mfer

            • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
              64·
              2 months ago

              Only an ever growing disgust at liberals looking for literally any excuse to blame people not in power for the actions of their preferred leaders, who are in power.

              1. I don’t honestly believe nor give a shit about this because

              2. Bibi is never going to willingly agree to an actual end to the genocide in the first place so anyone making this a center of attention is just fucking dumb. Like real fucking dumb. A credulous rube with zero critical thinking skills or long term memory.

              • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
                25·
                2 months ago
                1. Bibi is in power.
                2. I’m not “liberal.”
                3. I doubt you give two fucks about genocide or Palestine if you’re not concerned that Trump is possibly

                BLOCKING A CEASEFIRE.

                See? I can do lists too.

                • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  24·
                  2 months ago

                  No really you have the brain of a fish. You see a shiny object and you bite on it without question. Only an idiot of the highest order could be tricked into thinking there was anything even rhetorically framed as a cease fire on the table. Having any awareness at all of Biden’s ideology and Bibi’s political situation make the idea a joke.

                  I doubt you give two fucks about genocide or Palestine if you’re not concerned that Trump is possibly

                  Your disgusting cynicism in full bloom. You literally don’t give a shit except now you have an angle to make it about your election.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
          813·
          3 months ago

          Kamala made an official statmeent that she will keep delivering bombs to israel for Genocide if she is elected.

            • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
              44·
              2 months ago

              If a state is committing an ongoing genocide, and another state routinely sends weapons to that state, they are militarily supporting that genocide. That is the reality on the ground, regardless of the rhetoric from the Biden Administration. Ending that unconditional military support is what is required to stop supporting that genocide and abide by International Law

              • jordanlund@lemmy.world
                34·
                2 months ago

                No, they aren’t. Because that same state is under attack from state sponsored terrorism.

                If they are choosing to misappropriate the support for improper purposes, that’s on them.

                Kind of like when we send humanitarian aid to a country where it is immediately and illegally siezed by the government. We’re not just going to stop sending aid.

                • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
                  54·
                  2 months ago

                  Sending Israel military aid explicitly for uses that must abide by International Law, such as to protection from Iran for example, that is conditional military aid. The Biden Administration is not doing that, they know full well that the unconditional military aid sent to Israel is being used for the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza

                  Saying that they support a ceasefire while simultaneously supplying unconditional military aid to a nation engaging in genocide, while it might provide some plausible deniability, is still a violation of international law and morally representable

              • jordanlund@lemmy.world
                86·
                3 months ago

                Show me where they support the use of weapons for genocide. It’s cool, I can wait.

                Oh, you can’t because they don’t.

                • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                  115·
                  3 months ago

                  The weapons are unconditional. Therefore they are okay for them being used in any way Israeli regime deems fit.

                • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
                  87·
                  3 months ago

                  It says it right in the article I linked

                  Unless you’re saying Biden is not sending weapons for Genocide too… Surely you’re not a Genocide denier right?

      • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
        34·
        2 months ago

        What’s your take on this?

        And I’m sure you noticed the trump quote in the article:

        “From the start, Harris has worked to tie Israel’s hand behind its back, demanding an immediate ceasefire, always demanding ceasefire…which would only give Hamas time to regroup and launch a new October 7 style attack.”

        Thoughts?

        And where are you getting $24 billion? I’m only finding $20 Billion when i search. And that’s just mentioning a deal involving F15’s that won’t arrive until 2026. Love to see your source on that.

  • Bleys@lemmy.world
    1312·
    3 months ago

    Just curious why your entire account is countless articles criticizing democrats for their Palestine stance while applying absolutely no scrutiny to republicans, despite republicans being infinitely more hardline pro-Israel?

    • Luke@lemmy.mlEnglish
      157·
      3 months ago

      I think it’s pretty much a given that someone who criticizes the DNC stance on Palestine is also opposed to the GOP stance. Why do they need to list out all the other horrific people when they make a critique? You’re engaging in whataboutism here.

      If someone critiques the GOP for being blatantly racist, do you similarly ask them why they aren’t mentioning the KKK directly? No, it’s fucking assumed. Stop being a jackass.

      • Bleys@lemmy.world
        51·
        2 months ago

        This guy only posts articles calling out democrats, and does not mention republicans at all. So it’s definitely not implied that he supports one over the other. Especially when this specific line is the most popular wedge issue for conservative-aligned interests, despite once again democrats being substantially more progressive on this issue.

        And whataboutism? The GOP is one of two parties in a two party system, with the other being democrats. So yes it’s natural that if you mention one party’s stance you would then also mention the other.

        Also just lol at immediately responding with name calling. Btw can you name a single Republican that’s advocated for Palestine? Because I see a lot of Ds, but not a single R.

      • Bleys@lemmy.world
        51·
        2 months ago

        Sounds good. Btw can you name a single Republican who supports Palestine? I can only seem to find Democrats. Just want to know when you help the Republicans win :)

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
      1313·
      3 months ago

      Because the Democrats are in power right now and are the ones responsible for the Genocide still going on. Not the Republicans.

      Republicans occasionally get some posts as well. Interestingly when I post about them nobody shows up. And then they keep claiming what you’re saying right now.

          • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
            22·
            2 months ago

            This is you:

            Because the Democrats are in power right now and are the ones responsible for the Genocide still going on. Not the Republicans.

            Democrats control the Whitehouse and the Senate, so, like 1.5 branches of government, and you’re telling someone else this? Ballsy. Not to bright, but ballsy.

  • Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
    55·
    3 months ago

    Dems are there to win an election. Not to pledge support or advocate for group of foreigners whom the majority of the country they are running for reelection in do not support.

    You didn’t see the same expectations for Palestinian support during the Republican convention because no one on the right gives a shit about them.

    • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
      66·
      3 months ago

      Stupid leftists. They need to understand how unpopular the Jews are in this country. We aren’t going to beat Hitler by catering to them!

      I for one support a gradual sane end to slavery. In 100 years or so. Once we convince the slave owners that they’re wrong (but never ever saying so in public)