Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.

How to watch it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html

"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.

You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."

"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.

Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."

Edit And that’s it! Thanks for watching everyone!

tl;dw:

Consensus is Trump didn’t so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.

The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.

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    3 days ago

    It’s already forgotten. No one cares. Biden has had a stutter since childhood. No one cares.

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      3 days ago

      I understand you’re trying to do damage control. Look, most of us are still voting against Trump, but don’t piss on us and tell us it’s raining. What Biden demonstrated wasn’t a stutter, it was clearly severe cognitive decline.

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        3 days ago

        Uh what? Of course he’s declined. He’s old, just like trump. Trump is also clearly not his former self, from 2016 or even 2020. They are old af and that’s not news.

        The difference is that Biden did occasionally answer the question, and his answers were pretty good. Trump barely stayed on topic, let alone made sense. After the debate I know more about what Biden wants to do and nothing about trump’s policies.

        For an undecided voter, Biden losing his train of thought or mumbling some words is not terrible because he always recovered on the next question. Trump started out ok but definitely ignored important questions (abortion, his criminal conviction, Ukraine, etc.). Biden said what he needed to and has room to improve in the next debate.

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          “Occasionally answering the questions” is not a passing grade for this debate. The minimum bar was “appear competent” and Biden couldn’t pull it off. Trump didn’t “win”, but it’s easy to see that Biden lost. I’m still going to vote blue, but Biden/Harris WILL lose us the election.

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          The difference is that Biden did occasionally answer the question, and his answers were pretty good.

          Did he? Were they? I couldn’t understand most of what he said because he was hoarse and lost his train of thought often enough that what I could make out was hard to follow.

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      Biden didn’t stutter when he was Obama’s VP and his brain was still intact. Seems like everyone but you cares.

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        2 days ago

        He did. He was also known as a gaffe machine. Just because you didn’t notice doesn’t mean everyone else didn’t.

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      3 days ago

      That was not a stutter.

      I clipped that from C-SPAN2, it’s absolutely going viral.