Welcome to today’s daily kōrero!
Anyone can make the thread, first in first served. If you are here on a day and there’s no daily thread, feel free to create it!
Anyway, it’s just a chance to talk about your day, what you have planned, what you have done, etc.
So, how’s it going?
Here’s a graph of the number of “activities” we are behind lemmy.world, and aussie.zone as well. Last time we had the issue (a couple of weeks back) aussie.zone recovered much faster than us. Now we seem to be gaining on them, 30k worse than them down to 10k worse than them over the last 24 hours. So perhaps the prefetching is working!
The up and down is just normal variance over the day, it improves when the other side of the world are asleep, and gets worse when they all wake up.
WOW! Thank you for all that knowledge :) The relationships between the different instances, and how they work together suddenly makes sense - seems pretty simple when you break it down like that lol.
Do you think there could ever be a “perfect” solution to this problem? Or due to how this whole Federation thing works with all these different instances, is this just a limitation that can only get better to a point?
It’s fixable. Just that it wasn’t known to be a problem until recently.
Here’s the issue raised for it, where there is a bunch of conversation about ways to fix it.
The main issue it keeping the order right, so you can probably fix that by simply sending the date and time along with it and appropriately handling it on the receiving side. This has it’s own pros and cons that I think were discussed in that issue, but all in all, rest assured that top people are looking at it 🙂
Though it seems major enough that I think it will be a while before we get a fix released, and will have to limp along in the meantime.
Oh that’s good to hear :)
Just skimmed through the issue, and there seems to be a lot of interesting discussion around it.
Pretty cool, really feels like we’re at the infancy of something, hopefully growing into something great.
For sure! The great thing with federation is you can like the idea but not the implementation, and decide to do it better but get to interact with all the users still.
So we end up with a bunch of similar software that can interact: lemmy, kbin, mbin, sublinks, piefed. No single point of failure, so even if lemmy development was completely abandoned we could just switch software to something else and continue.
Oh okay - I didn’t know about the interaction with different software. Had heard of Kbin before (haven’t yet heard of any of the others), and just assumed it was a completely different type of thing like Mastodon.
That’s pretty cool. How does the interaction with (for example Kbin) work? Can we see their communities, and interact with their posts and vice-versa?
Interesting you mention Mastodon, that uses the same protocol as Lemmy. So people on Mastodon can actually participate in Lemmy discussions (though things look and work a little different, you can often spot them because their replies to comments start with @user because that’s how it works on Mastodon). Currently Lemmy users can’t interact with Mastodon, but this isn’t because it’s not possible, just not implemented in Lemmy (yet).
Kbin has both micro-blog style (like Mastodon/Twitter) and thread style (like Lemmy/Reddit), and largely Kbin keeps them separate so they are more natural than a Mastodon user interacting with Lemmy.
But yes, we can see the Kbin communities (they call them Magazines), and they can interact with us pretty seamlessly (you know, when bugs in Kbin aren’t causing lemmy to DDOS itself). Here’s the Kbin.social meta community: https://lemmy.nz/c/[email protected]
Oh haha! When I was writing down Mastodon, I had a feeling you were going to say they were compatible with eachother haha.
That’s interesting how they can interact with eacother etc. Have you tried Kbin? if so, hows that experience?
I’ve only briefly tried Kbin. I’m not really into microblogging so it doesn’t interest me too much. Many Kbin users are opposed to lemmy because the lemmy devs can be dicks and have some controversial political views, but largely I think the community is similar to Lemmy as it’s also largely reddit refugees.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]
Lol I’m not sure what this bot is referring to 😆