• @Rangelus
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    14 months ago

    I don’t know. I never said anything about a solution, did I?

    • @BalpeenHammerOP
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      14 months ago

      Why not? Why are you bleating about a problem without even having an opinion on a solution.

      • @Rangelus
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        14 months ago

        Is someone incapable of recognizing a problem without knowing how to solve it?

        • @BalpeenHammerOP
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          14 months ago

          If they can’t even form an opinion on a solution and if the problem only has one or two solutions then yes that person is incapable of recognising the problem.

          • @Rangelus
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            14 months ago

            Bollocks, you sound just like ilovethebomb. One is able to recognize a problem without knowing a solution for the problem. To say otherwise is disingenuous at best.

            • @BalpeenHammerOP
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              14 months ago

              The problem is simple and there are only two possible solutions maybe three if you push it. This isn’t some complex thing.

              • @Rangelus
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                14 months ago

                If it’s so simple why don’t you post your solution then?

                • @BalpeenHammerOP
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                  14 months ago

                  There are only three solutions.

                  1. Implant babies in women.
                  2. Allow more immigrants.
                  3. Kill older people or at least urge them to kill themselves to solve this crisis that’s going to destroy their country.

                  Then again I completely and utterly reject your insane alarmism over this issue. I don’t think this is some massive problem that’s going to destroy the country or GASP!!! make us like Japan. Imagine New Zealand being like Japan. Can anybody imagine something so horrible!!!

                  Honestly your alarmism is unhinged.

                  • @Rangelus
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                    14 months ago

                    Man you really are a muppet aren’t you?

                    Implant babies in women. Allow more immigrants. Kill older people or at least urge them to kill themselves to solve this crisis that’s going to destroy their country.

                    Or encourage families to have kids through incentives? Or increase wages and lower the cost of child care so couples can afford it now? Or combat social norms that women are supposed to stay at home? There are lots of ideas that aren’t “force women to have babies” and “kill all old people”. I can only assume you are being intentionally obtuse, because I can’t imagine you are so stupid to think that these are the only options.

                    Then again I completely and utterly reject your insane alarmism over this issue. I don’t think this is some massive problem that’s going to destroy the country or GASP!!! make us like Japan. Imagine New Zealand being like Japan. Can anybody imagine something so horrible!!!

                    You do realize it’s not just me, but lots of countries and scientists around the world pointing to the problems that can arise from a rapidly aging population, right? Take Korea, for example. They have the worlds lowest birth rate, and this year it dropped even lower to 0.78 children per woman. By 2067, it is predicted that 46% of the population will be over 65. Can you really not grasp how this will have huge ramifications for a society? When the working population is drastically lower than it is now? How will this affect the economy? Who will look after all the retired people when they need care? And so on and so on. It’s not a hard concept, despite you doing your damnedest to channel a moron.

                    Honestly your alarmism is unhinged.

                    What alarmism? I simply pointed out it will be a problem if it continues. I didn’t shout “WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW!” or anything, did I? I pointed out it is already starting to be a problem in other countries, which is true, and you started going on about forcing pregnancies and other stupid shit.

                    By the way, most countries where the birth rate is significantly below replacement level have started trying to combat this, usually with financial incentives for having children. Some, such as Korea, have spent billions on this. If it isn’t a problem, why waste all that money?