I hear that plastic bags are soon to be banned? How will that affect you? I’ve already thought about rubbish bags and bin liners and I don’t know what the alternative will be yet. If they replace plastic rubber bags with those thick paper ones what is to stop people hiding a plastic bag inside of it? How will it be policed? Will the border customs staff be seizing imported plastic bags at the border?

  • @DaveMA
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    1 year ago

    We don’t buy plastic bags. We try to recycle as much as we can, including collecting soft plastics, but we first try to reduce the amount we produce.

    I’ve already thought about rubbish bags and bin liners and I don’t know what the alternative will be yet.

    Personally we just don’t use a bin liner. The bin itself is plastic and easily washed, but doesn’t need washing that often.

    How will it be policed? Will the border customs staff be seizing imported plastic bags at the border?

    I can’t even find anything about bin liners or other plastic bags being banned from 1 July, only single use produce bags, plastic disposable cutlery/plates, plastic fruit stickers, and a restriction on who can buy plastic straws.

    Can you point to something that says plastic rubbish bags are banned?

    • @RaoulDukeM
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      21 year ago

      Where we are, we have to use the council’s prepaid plastic bags. It pisses me off - I wish they’d introduce stickers as another option. They don’t even make good bin liners because they’re too weak. But we barely use them now because we recycle or compost the vast majority of our stuff. Especially now that Tetrapak’s sorted out a recycling solution in NZ. Also, there’s no rubbish collection here, which adds a pretty big incentive.

      • @DaveMA
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        21 year ago

        Our council has prepaid plastic bags. You can’t get a private company wheelie bin? Some have fortnightly collection, which is what we use.

        It’s great you’ve managed to get your rubbish down so much! I swear we would have 1/4 of the rubbish if we didn’t have kids.

        • @RaoulDukeM
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          41 year ago

          Nah, we live way out in the wops. We don’t get any services out here at all. We have to drop the bags and recycling off at a collection point. We do try to cut down where we can.

          Meanwhile, most people out here still burn their rubbish, plastic and all. The farmers burn huge piles of plastic silage wrap, filling the valley with the sweet aroma of burnt polyethylene.

          • @DaveMA
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            31 year ago

            Ah I see. That sucks, I wonder is burning plastic silage wrap is counted when they measure the CO2 output of NZ farms.

            • @RaoulDukeM
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              31 year ago

              I can’t complain. The air is usually so clean out here.

              It probably doesn’t amount to much CO2 in the scheme of a farm, but it’s releasing all kinds of toxins into the environment. I never thought about all the plastic they go through with silage until I moved into the country. I certainly didn’t know it was usually burned. They were trialling a recycling scheme for it a few years ago and the farmers seemed pretty keen. They got about 20 tonnes of wrap in two days at two drop-off sites. It’s really bulky so it would’ve taken a lot of effort on the farmers’ part to load and cart it in. It seems like they stopped that though. Farmers can pay to have companies come and take it away for recycling, but it doesn’t seem like many are keen on that. At least not around here.

              • @DaveMA
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                21 year ago

                It’s probably one of those things we need government intervention to have recycling paid for up front, like has been suggested for TVs. Then you can make collection and recycling free, to encourage it.

                • @RaoulDukeM
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                  21 year ago

                  Just had a look. 85% of it was being recycled last year. So it’s just that our neighbours are the useless ones. And the government’s going to start requiring that all farm plastics are covered by a stewardship scheme to recycle them.

                  Still, it seems like a government program could be so much more efficient than the current system of calling someone to have them come and pick it up from the middle of nowhere then take it back. You could have one rubbish truck with a compactor move to a different area every day and pick it up everyone’s wrap in one go.

                  Long-term we need something better than plastic for silage wrap. People have been working on it but no one can do it at scale yet. When that happens, we need to make sure that’s cheaper/easier than the plastic stuff.

                  • @DaveMA
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                    21 year ago

                    Oh that’s good to see!

                    Long-term we need something better than plastic for silage wrap.

                    The problem is you need something that will not break down. Maybe the solution is to eeplace silage rather than the wrapping. Perhaps you use something that only breaks down in commercial composting, but silage can get very warm so that still may not be enough to prevent it breaking down in the paddock or shed.

    • @agentnz
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      21 year ago

      We dont use bun liners either. The rubnish bin is easy to wash if needed, but that is rare since all the messy stuff goes out to the compost or into waste disposer.