Some kinda hilarious quotes from the owner here.

I’m not even sure what they’re doing. I believe they’re protesting against light rail or something."

Gazley said the dealership supported sustainable transport options.

“Maybe they should inspect some of the vehicles that we have, because the majority of them are hybrid and electric vehicles.”

And then…

“And then I believe they tried to glue their hands to the footpath, but the glue didn’t set in time and they were arrested by the police.”

Maybe they’ll go after a Tesla dealership next?

  • @Xcf456
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    510 months ago

    Check out this book if you want to understand the rationale here: https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/products/2649-how-to-blow-up-a-pipeline

    Now the government can’t implement the stated goals or the next group protesting will try something even worse. >

    I mean, they’ll say that yes. But for a terrible example think back to the parliament occupation and how the realm of acceptable discourse shifted, despite how it ended and despite how a huge majority of the country hated them. Doing anything to mitigate against covid is a political third rail now.

    Also on Gazeley, they were one of the car dealerships on Cambridge tce that mounted legal action against a cycleway through there. This ‘just directly go to the government’ thing just isn’t how society works and isn’t where all the power lies.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/128860589/cycleway-injunction-a-speed-bump-for-wellingtons-bike-network

    • @DaveMA
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      310 months ago

      Thanks for the book recommendation.

      I think ultimately, it’s about my values. The government isn’t listening, things are probably going to get worse after the election, and we are all probably screwed. But at my core, I can’t support attacking people, and certainly not attacking people who can’t influence the change that is requested (these protesters are specifically calling for national passenger rail, and free public transport).

      Maybe this is the only effective way. But it’s a conflict of my values.

      Also on Gazeley, they were one of the car dealerships on Cambridge tce that mounted legal action against a cycleway through there. This ‘just directly go to the government’ thing just isn’t how society works and isn’t where all the power lies.

      Were they targetting for that reason, or is that a coincidence?

      • @Xcf456
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        310 months ago

        That specific reason? I don’t know, the article didn’t say but their quote from them alluded to it.

        The book does go into that feeling that it seems wrong on a values basis for most people, how the prevailing view in protest movements over the past 40 years or so has been that absolute non-violent protest (specifically that which extends to include inanimate objects, i.e. property, it doesn’t advocate violence against people) is the only acceptable way to bring about change.

        It then makes a case for targeted, direct action against property that is locking us into the climate crisis, given the urgency, lack of action from governments, and effort by industry to block and delay any action. Its pretty much the ‘target the people who have the power to change things’ that gets brought up in opposition to this kind of action.

        So I dunno, you find me out there doing any of this stuff, but it was an interesting read and makes you think about how the calls to completely passive protest as the only acceptable type is pushed by the status quo because it doesn’t work

        • @IlovethebombOP
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          -210 months ago

          That specific reason? I don’t know, the article didn’t say but their quote from them alluded to it.

          You’re acting awfully smug in your other comment for someone who can’t say for sure they even knew about the court case.

          • @Xcf456
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            210 months ago

            I’m acting awfully tired of you all over every thread just raging out with act party talking points. I have much more time for people who hold different views but are receptive to an actual discussion

            • @IlovethebombOP
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              -310 months ago

              Does someone holding a different viewpoint make you angry?

              • @Xcf456
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                210 months ago

                Oh, we’re trolling now are we

                • @IlovethebombOP
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                  -410 months ago

                  Some people you can’t help but wind up.

    • @IlovethebombOP
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      If you read their idiotic manifesto, or even the name of the organisation, you’d know these people are all about intercity rail services, not cycleways. I doubt they even know about the court case. They just really like trains.

      Besides, damaging private property because someone disagreed with you isn’t really how things are supposed to work.

      • @Xcf456
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        Did you even read the article you posted, or just the bits where the guy was all

        Restore Passenger Rail spokesperson James Cockle said they targeted the car dealer because the car industry was “against sustainable transportation”.

        "Your luxuries are killing us. The people selling these $200,000 utes and SUVs don’t care about our future.

        “The obscenely rich are lobbying against us having sustainable transport systems and are turbo-charging the climate crisis with more motorways and more luxury emissions.”

        • @IlovethebombOP
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          010 months ago

          Did they mention the actual court case though, or just generally complaining about “lobbying”?