I have had a pair of Jabra earplugs and boss headphones combined for over 7 years now.
That’s just anecdotal, that doesn’t mean that other products or other users haven’t had any issues.
It’s a product issue. Not a Bluetooth issue. As mentioned many times.
As I mentioned before, I don’t care that whether it’s a “Bluetooth” isssue or not, it’s a common issue experienced with that class of devices. The point is, the issue exists, whether or not it’s a fault of the actual Bluetooth protocol isn’t the point here.
My jabras are going strong despite being almost 7 years old. […] Maybe I’ll have to replace them once they hit the 10 year mark.
Again, anecdotal. I highly doubt that your battery would last for 10 years (and still have any useful capacity), which would be going against the well established averages for lithium ion. Many popular wireless earbuds, such as the Apple Airpods, have a lifespan of only 2-3 years.
The fact is that most wireless headsets will turn into e-waste - and dangerous e-waste at that - in a much, much shorter time frame compared to wired. That does not sound okay to me.
And yet, it’s still an additional activity that one may not want to engage in. It’s a pretty common complaint, so it’s not as personal as you think. Lots of people avoid wireless products for this reason alone.
I can’t replace a wire on my wired headset to my computer.
And as I said before, any decent headset will have a replaceable wire. But even if you can’t replace or repair the wire yourself, it’s typically not an issue for a repair shop to do it, and it’s pretty cheap too. Whereas it may not be that straightforward or cheap to replace a built-in battery - for starters, your repair shop may not even have the battery in stock (especially if it’s a 7+ year old, not super-popular model), assuming someone even makes a replacement battery, you’ll need the shop to order it in, which can take a long time, considering most airlines prohibit shipping loose batteries in cargo - which means that the battery will need to be shipped by land and/or sea. And even then, it doesn’t solve the e-waste problem.
You’re really just repeating the same fallacy over and over. If you go to a bakery to buy bread, and then didn’t like the bread.
Are you going to blame it on bread in general. Or are you going to blame the baker?
What you’re doing here, is blaming the bread for being bread, competed ignoring the fact that the baker simply doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Any argument I put forth you simply refuse to accept. And it’s amazing to me, that you who doesn’t prefer to use wireless. Have such a vast experience with them that you can speak in general terms for all of them.
Your bad purchase does not reflect the entire category.
Apple using low battery life on their product does not reflect on the entire category.
Their apple watch has battery that last for 1 day. My Samsung galaxy watch lasts for 5 days
You complain they don’t have battery. I tell you that is not really the case, good earplugs can last for many years. But you simply refuse to accept that, citing a different brand?
The amount of wired earplugs that lay on the landfills VASTLY outnumber wireless earplugs.
You don’t like wireless because you’re stuck 10 years in the past and can’t get over that it has progressed a lot. Citing your bad purchase as proof. You ask how to know what to buy. I tell you how. And you refuse it.
I like wireless because I have good products that work incredibly well without issues with wonderful features that is not only convenient, but makes my life easier.
There is not a single wired product that can do what my jabras allow. And that’s a fact.
If wireless are so generally bad as you think. Why do everyone use them? If they were so bad as you think. Wouldn’t everyone be fed up? The answer is simple. You’re stuck in a personal grudge where any argument for them will be brushed off by you as not representative of wireless as a whole. Or you simply refuse to even believe it.
Yes. My jabras really are that old. Yes, their battery is still that good. Despite you believing it or not. You citing apple airpods is irrelevant. They have a short lifespan. So I don’t buy them. Because I don’t like to buy bad products. It really is that simple.
Your bad purchase does not reflect the entire category.
And neither does gone one good purchase reflect upon the entire category.
But you simply refuse to accept that, citing a different brand?
The fact that lithium-ion batteries aren’t good after 3 years is well established, there are many articles on this from reputed sources. It’s not something I made up.
I tell you how. And you refuse it.
I’m not refusing it, it’s merely not an option for me, given where I live.
If wireless are so generally bad as you think. Why do everyone use them?
They don’t actually. Check my poll results, check any other polls - you’ll see that majority of the users still prefer wired.
You citing apple airpods is irrelevant
It’s not, because they have the majority of the market share, and are therefore representative of the market, and their battery life is well documented. Your experience with Jabra is anecdotal with nothing to back it up. Therefore, your single good experience with Jabars is just as meaningless as my single bad experience with Sony.
you’ll see that majority of the users still prefer wired.
Do I now? Because whenever I’m outside. I see people with wireless earbuds. I see wireless headphones. But you know what I almost never see? Wired headphones.
The fact that lithium-ion batteries aren’t good after 3 years is well established, there are many articles on this from reputed sources. It’s not something I made up.
The fact my jabras have more than enough battery for that to not be noticeable after 7 years makes it irrelevant.
And yes, you citing apple IS irrelevant because you’re doing it as a response to my success with Jabra earbuds. You’re using them as some kind of argument against why me having good products that are working well doesn’t actually matter.
With your logic. Wired headphones suck because the 30 dollar pair I bought once were really bad. So therefore they’re all bad, and any good wired headphone you can mention. Is just an outliner that doesn’t reflect wired headphones as a whole. Because the majority of wired headphones are cheap garbage.
I’m sorry, that I have really good Bluetooth wireless headphones and earbuds. It must truly shatter your world since you try to put so much effort into discrediting me for telling you they exist.
If you want good wireless products, that doesn’t have the problems you’ve mentioned. They exist. You can buy them.
If you want earbuds that last for more than 3 years. Don’t buy apple.
I know your argument are shit, Because I’m sitting on the actual evidence and proof that your descriptions are not accurate. I’m telling you they work. And your response is “but these other things didn’t work!” So? Don’t get those other things then.
There are millions of bad wired headphones. But I assume, you don’t buy those. You buy the good ones. Apply the same logic to wireless. And you won’t have the problems mentioned.
Please wash off your makeup. White and red is not a good look on anyone.
Do I now? Because whenever I’m outside. I see people with wireless earbuds. I see wireless headphones. But you know what I almost never see? Wired headphones.
Again, that’s just anecdotal. Show me an actual survey or some real statistics which says that users prefer wired over wireless.
The fact my jabras have more than enough battery for that to not be noticeable after 7 years makes it irrelevant.
The fact that you don’t have any evidence to show it is irrelevant.
apple IS irrelevant because you’re doing it as a response to my success with Jabra earbuds.
It isn’t, because Apple earbuds are a market leader and their battery life is well documented. Show me some evidence that Jabra earbuds are good even after 7 years, and I’ll accept it as relevant.
Wired headphones suck because the 30 dollar pair I bought once were really bad. So therefore they’re all bad, and any good wired headphone you can mention.
If that’s your logic then by my logic all wireless headphones are bad because of my experience.
Is just an outliner that doesn’t reflect wired headphones as a whole
So is your experience with Jabra.
It must truly shatter your world since you try to put so much effort into discrediting me for telling you they exist.
Actually it doesn’t, because you haven’t provided any evidence. A claim of a 7 year battery life on a frequently used lithium-ion battery in a device such as a headset, when the industry average is 2-3 years, is utterly ridiculous and unbelievable.
That’s just anecdotal, that doesn’t mean that other products or other users haven’t had any issues.
As I mentioned before, I don’t care that whether it’s a “Bluetooth” isssue or not, it’s a common issue experienced with that class of devices. The point is, the issue exists, whether or not it’s a fault of the actual Bluetooth protocol isn’t the point here.
Again, anecdotal. I highly doubt that your battery would last for 10 years (and still have any useful capacity), which would be going against the well established averages for lithium ion. Many popular wireless earbuds, such as the Apple Airpods, have a lifespan of only 2-3 years.
The fact is that most wireless headsets will turn into e-waste - and dangerous e-waste at that - in a much, much shorter time frame compared to wired. That does not sound okay to me.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/your-wireless-earbuds-are-trash-eventually/
And yet, it’s still an additional activity that one may not want to engage in. It’s a pretty common complaint, so it’s not as personal as you think. Lots of people avoid wireless products for this reason alone.
And as I said before, any decent headset will have a replaceable wire. But even if you can’t replace or repair the wire yourself, it’s typically not an issue for a repair shop to do it, and it’s pretty cheap too. Whereas it may not be that straightforward or cheap to replace a built-in battery - for starters, your repair shop may not even have the battery in stock (especially if it’s a 7+ year old, not super-popular model), assuming someone even makes a replacement battery, you’ll need the shop to order it in, which can take a long time, considering most airlines prohibit shipping loose batteries in cargo - which means that the battery will need to be shipped by land and/or sea. And even then, it doesn’t solve the e-waste problem.
You’re really just repeating the same fallacy over and over. If you go to a bakery to buy bread, and then didn’t like the bread.
Are you going to blame it on bread in general. Or are you going to blame the baker?
What you’re doing here, is blaming the bread for being bread, competed ignoring the fact that the baker simply doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Any argument I put forth you simply refuse to accept. And it’s amazing to me, that you who doesn’t prefer to use wireless. Have such a vast experience with them that you can speak in general terms for all of them.
Your bad purchase does not reflect the entire category.
Apple using low battery life on their product does not reflect on the entire category.
Their apple watch has battery that last for 1 day. My Samsung galaxy watch lasts for 5 days
You complain they don’t have battery. I tell you that is not really the case, good earplugs can last for many years. But you simply refuse to accept that, citing a different brand?
The amount of wired earplugs that lay on the landfills VASTLY outnumber wireless earplugs.
You don’t like wireless because you’re stuck 10 years in the past and can’t get over that it has progressed a lot. Citing your bad purchase as proof. You ask how to know what to buy. I tell you how. And you refuse it.
I like wireless because I have good products that work incredibly well without issues with wonderful features that is not only convenient, but makes my life easier.
There is not a single wired product that can do what my jabras allow. And that’s a fact.
If wireless are so generally bad as you think. Why do everyone use them? If they were so bad as you think. Wouldn’t everyone be fed up? The answer is simple. You’re stuck in a personal grudge where any argument for them will be brushed off by you as not representative of wireless as a whole. Or you simply refuse to even believe it.
Yes. My jabras really are that old. Yes, their battery is still that good. Despite you believing it or not. You citing apple airpods is irrelevant. They have a short lifespan. So I don’t buy them. Because I don’t like to buy bad products. It really is that simple.
And neither does gone one good purchase reflect upon the entire category.
The fact that lithium-ion batteries aren’t good after 3 years is well established, there are many articles on this from reputed sources. It’s not something I made up.
I’m not refusing it, it’s merely not an option for me, given where I live.
They don’t actually. Check my poll results, check any other polls - you’ll see that majority of the users still prefer wired.
It’s not, because they have the majority of the market share, and are therefore representative of the market, and their battery life is well documented. Your experience with Jabra is anecdotal with nothing to back it up. Therefore, your single good experience with Jabars is just as meaningless as my single bad experience with Sony.
Do I now? Because whenever I’m outside. I see people with wireless earbuds. I see wireless headphones. But you know what I almost never see? Wired headphones.
The fact my jabras have more than enough battery for that to not be noticeable after 7 years makes it irrelevant.
And yes, you citing apple IS irrelevant because you’re doing it as a response to my success with Jabra earbuds. You’re using them as some kind of argument against why me having good products that are working well doesn’t actually matter.
With your logic. Wired headphones suck because the 30 dollar pair I bought once were really bad. So therefore they’re all bad, and any good wired headphone you can mention. Is just an outliner that doesn’t reflect wired headphones as a whole. Because the majority of wired headphones are cheap garbage.
I’m sorry, that I have really good Bluetooth wireless headphones and earbuds. It must truly shatter your world since you try to put so much effort into discrediting me for telling you they exist.
If you want good wireless products, that doesn’t have the problems you’ve mentioned. They exist. You can buy them.
If you want earbuds that last for more than 3 years. Don’t buy apple.
I know your argument are shit, Because I’m sitting on the actual evidence and proof that your descriptions are not accurate. I’m telling you they work. And your response is “but these other things didn’t work!” So? Don’t get those other things then.
There are millions of bad wired headphones. But I assume, you don’t buy those. You buy the good ones. Apply the same logic to wireless. And you won’t have the problems mentioned.
Please wash off your makeup. White and red is not a good look on anyone.
Again, that’s just anecdotal. Show me an actual survey or some real statistics which says that users prefer wired over wireless.
The fact that you don’t have any evidence to show it is irrelevant.
It isn’t, because Apple earbuds are a market leader and their battery life is well documented. Show me some evidence that Jabra earbuds are good even after 7 years, and I’ll accept it as relevant.
If that’s your logic then by my logic all wireless headphones are bad because of my experience.
So is your experience with Jabra.
Actually it doesn’t, because you haven’t provided any evidence. A claim of a 7 year battery life on a frequently used lithium-ion battery in a device such as a headset, when the industry average is 2-3 years, is utterly ridiculous and unbelievable.