That’s true if it’s closer to 2095. If it’s closer to 2025, there’s fuck all we can do to stop it, and so we need to do what’s best to survive it, which is not the same as what’s best to prevent it.

It’s kind of important whether it’s 2095 (prepare for it, set up nuclear, reduce carbon emissions) or 2025 (fuck global warming, we need fuel and we need it now, the more carbon emitted the better).

It doesn’t to me. It’s just communists vs liberals rather than left vs right.

As someone with similar views, I recently realised that I have the exact same tribalism and aggression, it’s just targeted at people who have that mentality.

Exactly. Blame/credit (blame in this case) doesn’t travel that way.

Take the following example: Alice and Bob both support view X. Bob also supports view Y. Y is evil. Then, Bob can be deemed responsible for supporting view Y. But X does not become evil because Bob is. And so Alice is completely fine.

Hell, “gaslighting” itself is a good example of this phenomenon, and it’s mostly on the left.

Nah, it’s probably because most of us left Reddit at some point, either due to banning left-wing subs or due to corporate dickery.

The right-wingers went their way, to places like Voat, Saidit, Gab and Truth Social.

Finally. There you are. I’ve faced so many left-wing schmucks, I was wondering where the right-wing ones had gone.

But you’re still a schmuck. Leftists don’t want children to grow up to be vile.

If you want to link me to an author I don’t recognise, you’ll have to try harder than Luxemburg!

I’m pretty sure that’s what they mean.

Nobody cares what Lenin had to say. You’re not just talking to the lemmygrad lot.

If it were just that dimension, where’s all the (right-)libertarians?

Yeah, Reddit leans boringly mildly progressive, Lemmy leans communist.

Climate change will not cause human extinction. Even the worst predictions aren’t close to extinction level. There’s 8 billion of us and we have technology.

Climate change will cause bad shit to happen. It already has. But bad shit is not the same as extinction.

There’s no use arguing with Lenins2ndCat. I’ve argued with them before, and they already know they’re right despite any arguments or evidence to the contrary.

Then don’t call it communism.

If a vaguely populist leader started outright talking about supporting fascism, that would quite rightly bring to mind at least Italian Fascism if not German Nazism, and arguing that they just meant the idea of close mutual support and people being stronger together (like a fasces) would not work.

I sometimes feel that way, yeah. The problem with democracy is the sheer quantity of idiots.

Yeah, a good part of that was because I stayed out of the right-wing cesspits, while taking far too long to leave the left-wing ones, so most of the cess I got was left cess.

The only exception was PCM (joined when it was merely right-leaning and not particularly PC, rather than the outright hive of scum and villainy it became), and there, it was far from progressive.

Exactly. Why does nobody understand economics?

That would be entirely unreasonable, because the ideal is not zero carbon output, it’s reducing carbon output to a sustainable level.