🤷‍♂️ could be a specific thing they told me n I forgot. Maybe as simple as don’t post lemmy screenshots trying to be funny. Idrc I used to be really into that community and got back into theory about it. I had like 100k karma , maybe less maybe way more , basically every post I’d put on that sub that got really big got taken down over the last year or so. I can’t speak to why mine specifically, but so far as I can tell they straight up Went through with like their definitive rules for posts or whatever and applied it retroactively and purged basically the whole top posts page halfba dozen times over at least. Maybe I’m just last to the party but the vague rumblings about how the main sub remains borked are well founded.

I mean, they didn’t do anything wrong. I just don’t like the rule(s) that I’m violating.

If it makes you feel any better it’s like 70% just me. Don’t feel too good tho b/c I am here owing to police beatings and being held in solitary confinement. So. Yeah 👍

No, it’s the last place on the internet that is actively curated instead of passively curated. You only see who you pick to follow. Can’t even blame the algorithm because there isn’t one.

europor

Okay, so this is actually really interesting. It gets into how in the US, when we talk about slavery, we are specifically talking about chattel slavery as it was practiced in the Americas. And there’s actually a pretty strong argument that American chattel slavery is, if not unique in world history, it is more aberrant than other force labor systems throughout world history.

Absolutely mass incarceration, and the force labor system that goes along with it are incredibly distinct from American style chattel slavery, but this is because they’re arguably more in line with what slavery, distinct from chattel slavery, ‘usually’ meant. Basing a forced labor system off of race is more or less a modern phenomenon . There’s some nuance, but slave codes basically make up the core of available written records on the development of race as a cultural concept.

Put me in coach

Damn , reading some of these comments is like fanfiction about myself and it’s kind of wild actually. I am everyone until you go and check D:

Yeah, that sounds interesting.

That was the fucking point of all this, right ? Like ‘how dare the poors slip through some material change in conditions through gov power’. ‘We’ll show them’ and then they did all of this

“But but. The brown people were dirty and out”

OK so this is like the central issue. So I think it’s really important that we discuss it and do our best to try and work out some definitions. From my research so far every indication seems to be that the reason why we don’t have solid definitions to go on yet is because you know history isn’t done yet, we’re still working out what exactly words mean and how to use them . And you know consensus is the only arbiter we have there so it needs to be discussed.

Yeah that’s an important thing I have to address. Why do people think that authoritarianism means someone being mean to them?

Edit: I shouldn’t be that sour about it. Definitions are super important part and I’ve seen this coming for months., But there does seem to be like a rather substantive difference between like political science definitions of authoritarianism versus like general use public definitions. Like the general public seems to be really about like on an individual level, and I just don’t think that’s super helpful when you’re talking about governmental structure. there’s a little bit of overlap, but that’s not what the focus of most of the academic writing on the subject is so what pops up on Google when you just google “authoritarian“ is not the definition I’m operating off of, no.

Edit2: But yeah, oh yeah yeah yeah, the US being both a democracy and massively a fan of authoritarian governance is exactly what the memes about and you know trying to talk to anybody about that really seems to be like half of people take it as such a given like your baby for not having gotten over that when you were a kid and the other half like consider it an assault against the soul of America

thats completely fair. its future historians who get to have settled terms and that only comes from us in the present doing our best to hash it out. By my assessments, the etymology and definition of authoritarian does support the idea that the US heavily involves autocratic elements in its governance, and can be described as authoritarian. I specifically avoid calling the US fascist because that’s an argument that mostly makes sense to people outside the US, and my core audience is within the imperial core. At the end of the day, I did just need to pick a term that seemed to fit best and be effective at communicating my argument, and authoritarianism is what ive settled on for the foreseeable future. Though, i would say there’s a lot of overlap in our thoughts on the subject. The core argument this meme is trying to reference is the idea that because segregation and chattel slavery were race based apartheid style systems, and that is a subsection of authoritarianism, then for most of US history the republic has operated as part of an authoritarian system. ==> so why does saying it out loud massively violate american taboos about its own history and relationship as a state to white supremacy? chiefly, that it was founded on it, and operated on it. until like … within living memory. thats the official version of events. bizarre. but its not bizarre. its exactly how language and societies react when states do this.

That is the definition of individual authoritarianism not institutional authoritarianism. It’s from *The Authoritarian Personality * and is not accepted as definitive in any academic study of authoritarianism in governance. Tho it is quite interesting to think about how this definition has been used to make the argument that the entire moral and psychological basis of conservatism as a whole, is individual authoritarianism.

Let me explain… …I don’t know how to explain that when a law enforcement agency says that it is only interested in investigating your organization for crimes. that is. not something that you should take as reassuring. It outlines a level of trust in the establishments of imperial power that ,. supporters of this line of thought here would be okay with showing cops around the clubhouse, because you’re confident they won’t decide that what you are doing here is a crime. It is an avenue for the state to label its own political opponents as [legal to oppress with state power]s. All of the nonsense in this thread of is providing cover for that and that’s the end of it for me.

OK. I don’t agree about what reality is with you enough to have a conversation.

I have included the link to the source document directly in the post. It was accessible through the source link at the bottom at any time. -moving past that- my favorite part of the source document is how Anarchists are the only ones to get an actual “tactics” section. Whereas, the militas get a list of crimes

pfft

lol

no they didnt its two pages down the document i am going to cry and throw a fit

a completely understandable assumption. That ones on me. the paragraph right above where this screenshot cuts off actually super pinky swears that they won’t keep track of people just for using them.