I see. The pushback was good to see, but still seeing the comments and seeing other members consider leaving was what pushed me to act while calling out this stuff.

It clearly is to the people who responded to the post i linked. They sure seemed upset. The persons right to exist and the way they were treated, isn’t a “disagreement”. Please read the linked post

Odd that a organization aimed at moving people at risk of legal or other physical safety risks would organize or work over unnecrypred discord. You’d think a serious organization would use Element/matrix or signal to communicate securly, very alarming.

They’ll likely federate with those who worked with them and signed NDA. They are probably going to allowlist federate … My guess

They can fork the project files and have a community edition

As a beehaw user, they also have rude users too. You can read my post about “debates”

My point is your comment is disingenuous and unhelpful. Have you read what i was referring too?

I don’t recall anybody asking for “every” post be deleted, just abusive or traumatizing ones about or towards marginalized people. It’s reasonable to not retraumatise whom are regularly treated poorly by so much of society. please stop using hyperbolic and disingenuous arguments. I ask you to please read the linked posts and understand the person whom was attacked side.

To solve this problem of seeing “deleted by mod” all over, a reason can be posted by the mod as a comment explaining why if needed.

If we removed everything we disagreed with

That is very disingenuous and rather hyperbolic to say this. A person talking about their lived experiences and having someone dismiss them in a safe space only for admin to act like removing traumatising content is somehow “what we disagree with”?

This is tiring for those whom are being attacked by that stuff in covert manner. Think about it from the minority persons perspective, day in day out they see abusive content, in media, their home and in discussion forums. It doesn’t help to be forced to see this in a safe space either. The stuff i link in this post isn’t good for the mental health and wellbeing of people.

Lesbian seagulls ❤❤❤ warmed my heart… Hearing the research was hiiden 😭 not shocked

I actually found and reported comments being covertly hateful here and the admins did nothing.

For real, they really are

Yeah

Your post reminds me of The Crust Punk Bar

Here’s the story

dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.” And i was like, ohok and he continues “you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too. And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down” And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”

You’re right. They really don’t. Censorship is done at the gov level, yet private companies or organizationns, that they defend, ban them and suddenly it’s censorship. :/

I love this, disproves the whole “censorship” argument, if they were truly censored, they wouldn’t even be allowed web hosting for instances.

They shouldn’t be allowed to spread hateful messaging against others that leads to attacks

Thank you for your reply. May we message privately please? What you say is valid and I agree you and others shouldn’t have to continues being fighting for your right to peacefully live your life even inside of “safe space” particularly just makes this extra awful. Them allowing that content to stand up violates the whole spirit of a " safe space", they claim to be aiming for.

Oh wow that’s messed up.

I’ve had the understanding a lot of these laws were meant to impact the poor and working class for a long time. Rare to see someone Aldo know that too.

Probably has someone vote for them or doesn’t need to vote due to wealth and status. I am guessing here.