He/They. Trying out some different instances. If you see this handle on another instance, it’s probably me, unless someone else also stole it from Campaign: Skyjacks.

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  • Absolutely not. But you’ll agree this guy is not innocent. At all.

    Perhaps. But the question of the death penalty is larger than just this guy.

    That line of reasoning would be paralyzing. There’s a reasonably high chance that you’ll kill an innocent person while driving, but you’re still driving. I suppose the alternative is even worse.

    And there, I suppose, is the difference between you and me. You are willing to murder people, some portion of whom you know are not murderers, because somehow you’ve decided that their deaths are worth it in this instance. I am not. I find the murder of even one innocent immoral. And frankly, in a democratic system where the state acts on behalf of the people, we all have that innocent blood on our hands. We are all murderers; we are made that way by the state. Should we all, then, die?

    You’re also comparing accidents to deliberate acts in order to justify their murder. Those two things should not be conflated. No execution is an accident.


  • It’s also not an immoral killing, but that’s a separate conversation.

    Actually, let’s have that conversation.

    I have two questions for you:

    • Do you believe it can ever be moral to take an innocent person’s life?
    • Do you believe that our judicial system has never wrongly convicted an innocent person and sentenced them to death?

    If the answer to those questions is no, then I do not understand how you could ever say the death penalty can be moral.

    If you answered yes to the first, you’re a monster. If you answered yes to the second, you’re hopelessly naive.