Diva (she/her)

I think that that no where is that made anymore clear than the sentences they have written, many of which are borderline incomprehensible some even using “drag” to refer to other people in the situation.

I would agree that using ‘drag’ to refer to other people is unacceptable on top of being confusing.

I think in my experience with DroneRights and the Me/My person that getting mad at someone for this intention is not really reasonable, as they do not have malicious intent.

I also agree with the observation that some people have been instrumentalizing identity as a way to provoke others. The Me/My bit in particular sounds a bit megalomaniacal.

Intent is extremely important here, after all they/them is indeed used for non-specific scenarios or when you don’t know a singular person’s gender, it ls also very commonly used as a non-binary pronoun for non-binary people.

For me the pattern I often observe (as a nonbinary trans person who prefers binary pronouns) is that no matter how obvious they are, if I say something that someone disagrees with it’s open season to ‘that guy’ me and claim that ‘it’s just the gender neutral usage’ when challenged on it. They always seem to double down if I press.

I will not accept the idea that they/them is dehumanizing as that is dismissive towards all the people who use or even prefer they/them for themselves. In cases where a person has shared their pronouns let’s say she/her and another person decides to use they/them to avoid it intentionally that is indeed wrong, not simply because they did it but also because they had malicious intent.

I certainly wasn’t saying that they/them is dehumanizing or dismissive, but that it is degendering rather than gender affirming, and just because someone is nonbinary they can still have a binary preference for how they are referred to in respectful circles.

I already anticipate being accused of being a transphobe and getting called a cissy, so I want to preface all of this by saying I am Agender, I am not cis,

I already figured that out from your earlier posts, respect. 🤘

It’s also not hard to accept that ‘they’ and ‘you’ applies to everyone regardless of gender. And non-humans. And inanimate objects.

If ‘you’ is good enough for both my mother and a toaster, it’s good enough for them. There is no disrespect.

Drag has to lie about my daughter’s gender to my face in order to keep up this farce and you are aiding.

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The irony of posting something like that in this comm is a little much for me

I draw the line at pronouns involving pretending to fuck things that do not exist.

What about fae/faer or ze/zir then? Either way seems a little weird to be the one trying to dictate what other peoples gender is allowed to be.

I will grant that messing with first person pronouns makes language difficult, but language also is meant to be fucked with.

It’s also not hard to accept that ‘they’ and ‘you’ applies to everyone regardless of gender. And non-humans. And inanimate objects.

While this is the first time I’ve run into someone replacing the primary pronouns, I don’t see any reason to undermine drag just because of what language conventions allow for. Language is more defined by practical usage rather than explicit rules.

Let me give you my perspective. They/them pronouns are de-gendering rather than gender-affirming, because in English “they” refers to anyone, including men or women. In practical terms, “they” is often used as a cop-out by people who want to avoid calling trans women “she” or trans men “he”.

I can’t help but see drags use of drag/dragself as just another part of pushing back on de-gendering in the same way as any nonbinary trans person listing binary pronouns and asking people to stick to using those.

It’s actually not that hard to respect what a nonbinary person prefers be it neopronouns, binary pronouns, or agender pronouns.

My friend in PA got one of those postcards and it was like “your vote may not be public but if you vote is :)”.

I don’t know why they thought sending veiled threats to voters was somehow motivational, but here we are.

she’s electable if you vote for her!

Don’t forget to pokemon go to the polls.

popular vote goes to Harris but Trump gets inaugurated because the supreme court ruled otherwise?

yes we need to derail the metaphorical train

from Wikipedia

Reversing the points under a moving train will almost always derail the train.

There’s no “derailing the train”.

from Wikipedia

Reversing the points under a moving train will almost always derail the train.

that argument doesn’t fit with one of the primary aspects of The Trolley Problem - it involves a runaway trolley. The obviously-preferred solution to “stop the trolley” isn’t an option, because stopping the trolley isn’t possible.

hold my blunt while I butcher this metaphor:

from Wikipedia

Reversing the points under a moving train will almost always derail the train.

Yeah the supreme Court decided the election the last time around when it was close, within my lifetime! I was saying many months ago that if the Democrats are serious about wanting to win they should really be packing that thing well before the election. 🤦‍♀️

I’ve seen you post good takes

that actually made me blush, you’re too kind!

I am super good at missing out the context before I reply to things in my inbox, didn’t mean to be curt with you

until next time 🫡

I’m glad we agree

I’ll make sure to file this away the next time I feel like bringing up the US’s active participation in genocide any time the US is the subject of conversation.

isn’t this whataboutism

I’ve been doing so since Iraq, even when Trump was in office they did the same shit