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Ah alright that makes sense, thanks :)

And here I was using windows in a VM to run rstudio 😪

Times have changed for sure. (Tho I haven’t used rstudio for many years and it may still be unsupported)

Zomg I totally missed this message, I’m sorry, so I guess this is ME checking in on YOU a couple days later ;)

Sorry to hear the glowing didn’t work but thrilled to hear you had a good sleep anyway. That’s hard to come by sometimes :)

Is this one of those things like the GPS trackers they just sort of plant on your shit by trespassing, and if you find them they typically come to collect them because their cover is blown anyway and they are expensive?

Or is this one of those things that you need to like… actively do things with? From the pics it looks like an active-use device but idk shit about 2004 tech so… (I was an adult, but barely conscious of things)

Yes! Ok that probably helps a lot. Because I’ve seen a HUGE rise in _core (cottagecore, goblin core, Forrest core, witch core, etc. and that’s just here on Lemmy)

I hope that takes off more and leaves Punk behind so it can fit better. :) I’m sure the distinction exists for a reason.

And yeah steampunk is sort of the odd duck in what the other major __punk actually hit, but I did have some friends waaaaaaay back when steampunk was brand new, big into it, and they took it all the way to the social changes necessary for never evolving past the Industrial Revolution… so I’m probably heavily biased by that (then again in highschool they had canes, waistcoats, and top hats, and basically cosplayed as English gentlemen all the time so… probably not an ideal sample!)

Did things evolve to like to be petted because humans like to pet everything

OR…

Did humans evolve to like to pet everything because everything on earth responds in some way to touch?

Touch is nice. All creatures big enough to be petted respond to touch.

Even my fishes like being gently petted (and no I don’t do it a lot, my hands stay out of my tanks most of the time). I put my hands in the tank and they brush themselves up against my fingertips, gently waving through the water.

I probably have explored furry punk to some extent - any game/cartoon in which the main character is a non-human animal technically counts for that, I should think. Bonus if they are anthropomorphized. But it’s not called furrypunk afaik, or I’d probably throw that in too.

Beyond that I have no idea what those things even would be. Tho the current state of the US is very meat based so I think you’d have to go vegpunk on that one, at least where I’m at, for it to be an alternative option.

Isn’t factorio just pixel art? I wanna say 8/16 bit but it certainly is not that :p

Fwiw my only experience with factorio is that dude who made a working computer, built his own optimization, and ran doom on it (very very very slowly) so I’ve only seen it in that one video.

I tend to agree with that sentiment. Hence the confusion over everything being __punk.

I’m probably equally old so yeah that’s sort of how I envision it as well.

That helps, actually, more than one might expect.

When I think of __punk, I think about it having a whole -way of life- change, not just an aesthetic change. Cyberpunk incorporates all of the dystopia of deeply embedded tech and stuff. Solarpunk is the whole “living with nature” ideal, even steampunk had to reimagine how things would work (tho admittedly that’s way more of an aesthetic than the other two imho).

So it’s basically a meaningless term then? That’s disappointing. I really want to explore other… hypothetical options I suppose.

I mean I get that it’s used that way, but that doesn’t address what I want to know - are these “more than aesthetic”, or is it watering down what punk means by being applied too broadly?

I tend to think it’s the latter, because while the three I called out specifically are an aesthetic, they are also “alternative present/future” in a rebellious and/or politicized sort of way. They are sort of “what if?” Or “this would be good/bad/interesting”.

I don’t think the others really have that quality, but I’m not deeply involved with anything that would really help sort it out. So here I am :)

I was nearly always grounded from all electronics from 6-13 (autdhd, and authoritarian parents, bad mix), and had a bedroom with no exterior windows. My window went to a modified 3-season porch thing, in 2 of the 3 places (the third was an apartment for like 6mths, I barely remember it), and that’s where my mom slept, so… really quiet dead silence, mostly, else I was in trouble. Again. Or whatever garbage my mom had on tv, muffled through the wall.

Now I have tinnitus, so silence is really loud. I have aquariums tho and the hum and bubble of the air pump helps a lot (plus really loud circulation fans).

🎶outdoor… Wisconsin 🎶🎶

https://archive.org/details/tvtunes_11733

Hell yeah. You I like.

Aww that’s super nice of you :) even my friends struggle to…. Not dislike me :) I struggle with it myself but you made it a bit easier today, being very open to things.

It won’t be tonight but I do hope to run into you again. I… can’t reach out to you, it just isn’t a thing I can do at this point (always goes horribly) but if you do want to keep touch, please do feel free to dm me, or whatever that looks like on Lemmy/fediverse…?

Honestly it has not happened, and irl people who give me their contact info tend to do so with zero expectation of follow-up (I have learned through failed attempts to follow up), so idk how to do it or what it looks like… but I would like to keep contact if you’d be into it.

But if not o hope you have a great night all the same :) no pressure or whatever :) but do think of that mountain stream, maybe throw in glowing trees if you feel adventuresome! I have a whole dream town and it’s so fun to have a place to explore. Give yourself a glowing woods while you can ;)

Honestly it probably is just right. Whatever the number is it’s seems to be the right number.

Maybe musk would have done better with a coconut tho… just sayin.

I appreciate you friend. It’s been a solid while since I drank (which is better for everyone, I’m a fucking mess!) and so I’m kinda very aware of myself. I’m trying to be a better person and I fail every time. So if I limit my exposure surface area I can’t be so abrasive right…? Or something? (Frankly idk what’s wrong with me, but I’m clearly unlikeable so I try to limit my… exposure surface area I guess? Hence deleting my post. But telling you about it because i want to social…

I hope you have a wonderful night, and sleep wonderfully. I always like to encourage my friends to have soecific thoughts, so if you read this before you go to bed, I hope you fall asleep thinking about a random mountaintop stream leading into a lakebed. I hope you see trees around you, filled with fireflies. You see the lake lapping at your feet with the wind, and bioluminescent glow around your toes.

Have a great night friend and wonderful dreams :)

That’s a thing, and frankly if we discount coconuts a lot more of the internet is virgin than we care to engage with……?

If that’s what it takes for greatness, we need more coconut fuckers. I guess….?

Or whatever.

Look don’t quote me on this but smart people are weird as fuck, and a lot of them are super not into normie life…