For me:
- System: Anarcho-Capitalism.
- Money: Hashgraph based stable coin, with Multisig wallets.
- Written Language: Korean Language- Hangul.
- Number System: Kaktovik Numerals.
- Calculator System: RPN
- Clock System: Swatch Internet Time
- Calendar: Solar Hijri calendar.
Your utopia is my dystopia.
Utopias are impossible. The name itself literally means “no place,” as in it couldn’t exist.
That’s why I strive for dinotopia
I’m curious, why is that?
Anarcho-capitalism would be horrifying if actually put into practice. Oh, you lost your job and can’t afford the fire insurance? And your toaster was built without any safety regulations? And your electricity was provided by the lowest bidder? Have fun watching your house and all your belongings burn down. Then you get to try to literally pull yourself up by your bootstraps, because you have nothing. You (rightfully) didn’t trust banks, since there aren’t any government agencies to help you if your bank collapses, so all your money was stored on your *checks notes* phone (yay, crypto), which burned up in your fire. But don’t worry, your private key is backed up by the people who hacked your phone and stole all your money last week. So you can rest assured knowing your money didn’t just disappear, it’s paying for someone else’s champagne. There’s nothing you could do about it anyway, even if there was a government, because crypto is so awesome and secure that once your money is stolen, there’s literally no way to ever get it back, period. Unless, of course, you fork the blockchain. But who would do that? Cough cough etherium cough cough. (Kinda defeats the entire purpose of crypto, huh?) But you can’t even fork the blockchain, because hashgraph doesn’t have a blockchain. So I guess you’ll just go hungry tonight sleeping in the woods, but oops, you got shot for trespassing, because those woods were owned by The Company, and The Company can’t afford to let you stay there. Don’t worry though, your body will decompose and return to the earth, where it will mix with the pollutants dumped by The Company into the land they own. Maybe a flower might grow, so you’ll have something someone can remember you by.
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Anarcho-capitalism is just (un)glorified feudalism.
The Culture as imagined by Iain M. Banks.
Taking jobs as passion projects and partying on the side with my bespoke suite of substances produced by thought activated glands in my brain? Sign me tf up. Imma design avant-garde planetary landscapes for like 4 years, then spend 2 just raving constantly then swap genders for a spell? Crazy good utopian concept.
The usual shorthand description I see for the Culture is “fully automated luxury gay space communism”.
I shorten it even more, to “pets for supercomputers.”
I’m on board with that.
You do you. I’m going with the Gzilt.
Anarcho-capitalism is not a real thing.
seeks to abolish centralized statesin favor of stateless societies with systems of private property enforced by private agencies, based on concepts such as the non-aggression principle, free markets and self-ownership.
What mad max bullshit is this
this is feudalism, basically.
Like I said it’s not a real thing. The saying is not “No Gods, No Masters (except for my boss and landlord)”.
Sounds like the US if every day was The Purge.
Anti-anxiety drugs on command, everything is automated, children are raised communally and grown in a lab, the world is governed by a ruling class who protects us from hardship, and lots of orgies.
so kinda like “brave new world”?
“Brave new” what now? I’m thinking we call the anxiety pills Soma as in, “hey! gimme Soma dat!”
I’m only in if there are mandatory industrialist fan club meetings too
Pretty much post scarcity like star trek. For me it would be humans not living on any habitable planet but leaving them to be as they would while living in space.
Not to edit your utopia, but a post scarcity society would be a dystopia, for more info about that, I invite you to check this Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
Post scarcity doesn’t mean high fertility.
did you read past the first sentence? about not living on habitable planets?
Country: United States
System: Parliamentary Democracy featuring a house empowered with the duties of government and a senate empowered with the duties of state, this could be outlined in vastly more detail but the most important parts are 27 senators per state, 1 representative to a state for every 50k permanent residents, voting districts of no less than five and no more than 9 seats all elected together via Multi-Seat STAR.
Money: maximum price increase per year tied to the federal interest rate to solidify the only motivation for monetary policy being currency stability and sustainable inflation rates.
Written Language: Hangul inspired system with single stroke characters for consonant sounds and closed shapes/loops for vowel sounds, written top to bottom then left to right.
Numerals: Kaktovik but extended to base 36 [0-Z]
Clock System: [0-Z] base 36 hours, minutes, and seconds
Calendar: 4 4 5 quarters with New Year’s Eve being an intercalary day, and leap day being inserted before it.
Schooling: Year round schooling, multi-teacher classrooms, IB standard schooling, HEAVY emphasis on keeping students with academic peers, not necessarily age peers (with the caveat of young cohorts, middle cohorts, and mature cohorts, getting their own dedicated campuses so that the teenager who’s still only reading at a 2nd grade level doesn’t have to feel embarrassed sharing a classroom with 9 year olds), all three meals offered for free to school families (staff and staff families included)
Star Trek.
A society that allows everyone to be free to do whatever they want, provided that all parties involved fully understand and consent to it. Economy wise, I’d like everyone to just unconditionally receive a basic income that covers enough for them to live comfortably.
Perhaps unrealistic yeah, but that’s the dream society I wish could happen.
I could live in this world. I’d happily tolerate the RPN to end capitalism.
When relaying the Swatch time, do you have to say “n dot beats” or it just “n beats”?
If you want to end capitalism this ain’t it. They want anarcho-capitalism, which is just an extreme form of capitalism that assumes everyone has the best of intentions. It’s capitalism except without any pesky “regulations” or “having to help literally anyone else”. The only driving force behind anything is money you have access to in your short lifetime and holding onto your private property at all costs.
It’s the purest, worst possible form of capitalism if you care about other people to any degree. The only people that think it’s a good idea are people who currently believe that capitalism would totally work if we would just let corporations do whatever they wanted and if taxes were voluntary. In reality most of our labour laws are written so to stop shit like locking people inside a factory so they wouldn’t go on a break and watching them die from a fire multiple times. Building codes exist to stop them creating death-traps, and since they don’t a give a rat’s ass about the longterm we have to be constantly fighting them with environmental regulations so that future generations can survive.
In short, any anarcho-capitalist society would end up needing to have worker unions(governments) to protect people in the end, the workers would want a say in affairs(a vote), and there would be union dues(taxes). The only difference is that if you aren’t working you don’t get to have access to, or say in, anything that happens.
It’s dogshit.
My bad. I misread it as AnCom. I wouldn’t have said that if I’d read AnCap. Thanks for the lecture.
Yea, fair. Also an extreme ideology that would be great but probably not feasible. At least it makes an effort to care about people and put power in the hands of those actually doing literally anything vaguely productive.
It’s the purest, worst possible form of capitalism if you care about other people to any degree. The only people that think it’s a good idea are people who currently believe that capitalism would totally work if we would just let corporations do whatever they wanted and if taxes were voluntary. In reality most of our labour laws are written so to stop shit like locking people inside a factory so they wouldn’t go on a break and watching them die from a fire multiple times. Building codes exist to stop them creating death-traps, and since they don’t a give a rat’s ass about the longterm we have to be constantly fighting them with environmental regulations so that future generations can survive.
In short, any anarcho-capitalist society would end up needing to have worker unions(governments) to protect people in the end, the workers would want a say in affairs(a vote), and there would be union dues(taxes). The only difference is that if you aren’t working you don’t get to have access to, or say in, anything that happens.
That is just misinformation, checkout real life examples: https://doi.org/10.3917/redp.306.0115
So the best you got is medieval Iceland? And one of the main point is just on the height of people there while the other is trying to pull the concept of fair wages from butter and meat and shit? The scale alone is so incredibly small and the needs so localized that it has absolutely nothing to do with modern life in the slightest. It is so far removed from our reality that it might as well not be touched on at all when the United States, the shining beacon of capitalism, started with very few regulations and then needed a bunch because “the market” wasn’t doing it’s fucking job.
They also compared Icelandic chieftains to feudal lords in England. Capitalism was invented to keep the idea of the monarchy going when it was clear that citizens of the world were getting fed up with their lords just doing whatever the fuck they wanted simply because they had the money to do so. Making that comparison is almost literally showing how, with a larger population, capitalism ceases to function and just becomes taxation without representation. It’s the same with any extreme ideology, in the end, where it demands full cooperation which simply cannot happen.
Tell me, in your own words, why my points are incorrect. Tell me why Medieval Iceland is a good example when we have so many modern examples of less regulation leading to more needless suffering.
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Bonus:
You can still have money in other systems. The reason capitalism just doesn’t work is because it puts all the importance on said money, ahead of all of the people who exist in the world. A person is reduced down to their possessions and how much capital they have and can earn in the short term, and without those things they are thrown aside. Big money means big power and it can use that to further decrease the power of people. We’re seeing it everywhere right now. And more and more the people are afraid of losing what little money they have and so are allowing some horrible things to happen to themselves and others out of fear of losing their scraps.
It just doesn’t work.
No scarcity,
No fertility (mandatory sterilisation),
No religion,
No puritanical laws,
No censorshipIt’s “How does your dream utopia look?” or “What does your dream utopia look like?”
It’s never “how X looks like”.