Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

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      If you cared about that you’d be pressuring the democrats to run someone else.

      If you believed it was a real threat you wouldn’t be trying to shame and browbeat people into casting a ballot for the democrats vile running dog and preparing to endure a time of upheaval instead.

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        If you cared about that you’d be pressuring the democrats to run someone else.

        Who says I’m not?

        If you believed it was a real threat you wouldn’t be trying to shame and browbeat people into casting a ballot for the democrats vile running dog and preparing to endure a time of upheaval instead.

        And if you were a decent person you’d hold your nose and vote against the obvious worse choice.

        But you both-sidesers just want to pat yourselves on the back.

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          I already said I won’t vote for Joe Biden. Nothing you say will ever convince me and the only effect your replies can have is on third party readers of them.

          It doesn’t make me a bad person that there’s a bridge too far for lending my paltry, unimportant political support. Biden crossed that bridge before I even voted for him the first and only time in 2008.

          I will be voting against trump though, since my PSL ballot isn’t gonna be counted for him.

          If you think me and people like me (a group that is growing by the minute as Biden continues to carry water for Zionist fascism) are necessary for a democrat victory and you see that as of the highest importance, join us and add to the pressure the democrats are under to pick a different candidate.

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            And again, from his privileged high horse, does he push the agenda of not voting for Biden and enabling a Trump victory.

            Fuck women’s rights, this is about moral superiority, dear reader!

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              Running Biden enables a trump victory.

              I’m not the one doing that, the democrats are.

              Having a standard that is above genocide isnt an indicator of moral superiority.

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                Running Biden enables a trump victory.

                Votes enable or disable a victory. Everything else is abstraction.

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                    Which, you know, is effectively impossible. So it’s a throwaway vote. And you’ll counter that you’re in a red state anyways so Biden vote would be a throwaway too.

                    But then what you’re actually doing here and elsewhere is pushing the agenda for others to actively not vote for Biden; which, in other places, is absolutely not consistent with voting against Trump.

                    You are privileged enough to not have to care whether Bad or Worse gets elected. Must be nice.

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              Fuck women’s rights

              Roe v Wade got obliterated in 2022, btw. Instead of codifying it when he entered office, he stood by and let it get scrapped. This does not sound like someone who respects women’s bodily autonomy.

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                Gee I wonder who stacked the courts with the specific goal of doing just that…

                Nah, let’s blame the guy who didn’t bypass the supposed checks and balances that we would scream at the right for abusing instead.

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                  damn, sounds like Dems are powerless to stop the ever-advancing march of American fascism, and we should be organizing alternate power structures to protect the most vulnerable around us, rather than hoping they’ll decide to do something useful this time around!

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                    Agreed.

                    Handing the election to Worse to spite Bad is obviously not the way to make that happen.

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      At this point, I honestly doubt Biden will do anything to stop this from happening anyways. I have 0 confidence he will do what needs to be done to protect trans people.