At this point I don’t think you’re a bot but it’s pretty obvious many of you are. The fact any and every comment gets 10+ upvotes in 15 minutes is unnatural for a site like this. There should be some comments with under 5 upvotes but I NEVER see hexbear comments get under that.
I have a hard time believing any community is that gender diverse.
The fact any and every comment gets 10+ upvotes in 15 minutes is unnatural for a site like this. There should be some comments with under 5 upvotes but I NEVER see hexbear comments get under that.
What can I say, we’re a united front when it comes to arguing with liberals. Honestly, we didnt really see upvote totals as high as these before federation, which I think is a combination of the fact that we’re, like I said, united in the face of these issues, and also the fact that some people in other instances agree with us. We care about each other and communist is a collectivist ideology. There’s also a lot of us. And trust me, if you believe I"M not a bot then I can tell you that in the three years before federation noone here stuck me as not being a genuine human being. Other than the bit accounts and like the like, two actual bots we made for specific purposes.
I have a hard time believing any community is that gender diverse.
Damn, thats weird because every community I’m a part of is gender diverse. Even not explictly leftist ones, like I’m in a discord server for a streamer called Barry and like half the server is trans or nonbinary. I’m pretty used to interacting with trans and enby people in my life at this point. Have a fair few of them in my life offline as well. This seems like a you problem.
maybe take even five minutes to think about what you’re suggesting here: you believe Russia or China or whatever has created 20.000 bots just for them to sit around on their own instance for three years before federating?
If you’re questioning whether we’re real people you can literally just look through all the posts on hexbear. Our entire history is right there for anyone interested.
What a beautiful brain you have you think anyone has been running a website full of bots for three years in the hope that one day Reddit might implode and they can be used to trick some lost redditors.
You’re talking about one of the oldest lemmy instances, the most active established instance, and the instance with highest per capita activity, at a time when activity has suddenly become higher than ever because suddenly there are a bunch of redditors saying awful shit all over our feeds and we can go dunk on them without needing to bother with accounts on different sites for the first time in over three years.
You’re also vastly overestimating what bots require and do: all we have to do is look at the largest and most sophisticated botnets - the CIA/State Department astroturfing botnets - to see how even the laziest and crudest copy/pasta spam is all it takes to completely dominate and drown out opposition. Literally no one needs to be sneaky, just yell the exact same verbatim press release quote over and over from ten thousand firstnamelastname12345 accounts with stock photo profile pics and you control the conversation completely and no one cares if you get caught out, like the CIA/State Department bots constantly do.
You’re also claiming that the instance was built up with chatbots more sophisticated than anything there is today - and all of those still-not-coherent most-sophisticated AIs are extremely expensive to run - starting at a time when the most advanced language generating AI was GPT-2, which was only a step or so above old markov chain babbling. You can literally go and look at the ancient post history yourself.
I would believe you, but it’s very possible you’re a bot and everything you just said is an AI trained to say this in order to make people reduce their doubts about your user authenticity.
Or you could go and look at the three years of post history the community has, which notably does not revolve around some herculean effort to gaslight a tiny handful of people from sites that did not exist for 90% of hexbear’s existence and that no one had any realistic expectation would ever exist.
The entire theory rests on the idea that [insert bad country] had LLMs that were five years ahead of the curve and the supercomputers to run them, and this was devoted to generating massive amounts of content on the speculation that maybe someday it would provide legitimization in a fringe internet community, instead of using that massive technological and material advantage to spam as hard as possible with infinite free burner accounts on mainstream social media sites.
The entire theory rests on the idea that [insert bad country] had LLMs that were five years ahead of the curve and the supercomputers to run them, and this was devoted to generating massive amounts of content on the speculation that maybe someday it would provide legitimization in a fringe internet community, instead of using that massive technological and material advantage to spam as hard as possible with infinite free burner accounts on mainstream social media sites.
LOL try to be a little more realistic of a bot, no human talks like.
How am I dehumanizing anyone? I’m merely calling suspicion to the fact your pronoun usage is so varied, it’s like the botmakers used a random generator for pronouns and didn’t put any effort in.
If you really thought they person you were talking too was an AI, you wouldn’t be trying these snarky jabs. What, you think you’re going to hurt a computers feelings?
So you’re just gonna double down on the “actually my shadowy enemies are both impossibly more technologically advanced than the imperial core, but also too stupid to use that advantage and instead waste massive amounts of effort specifically in preparation to gaslight me, the main character, due to their impossible prescience that one day I, the main character, would be using a fringe social media website in the middle of the night, prescience that is literally only used for that one purpose and that purpose alone because it so import to trick me, the main character,” theory then?
Congratulations, you’ve successfully gaslit yourself into defining away everyone who disagrees with you as a “bot” and now find yourself haunted on all sides by your shadowy enemies.
And for everyone else: what do you think the odds are some of this unfortunate poster’s brainworm infestation was seeded by literal CIA/State Department astroturfing bots? I give it about a 50/50 that that was an important infection vector, and a good 90% chance that they’ve nodded along while looking at CIA copypasta bot and uncritically believed whatever racist thing it was telling them to.
Remember that time it was leaked that Mi5 was running a bot farm out of a disused mill?
The British state had (has?) a literal propaganda mill.
For months leading up to the general election, you’d see the same comments in their tens, sometimes hundreds, popping up to defend Boris Johnson. And the same same copy-paste comments attacking Jeremy Corbyn.
Prove it or fuck off. We have 280 thousand posts and 3,67 million comments. Find something proving that we’re bots. Shouldn’t be too hard looking at our older posts given how Russia allegedly had to train us for 3 years to get us up to standard.
I wish I could go through life like this as well, damn. Never ever have to entertain the thought that maybe someone else’s wacky opinion is sincere and has a solid foundation to it, but nah man, it’s just a bot. Seems a lot less stressful.
At this point I don’t think you’re a bot but it’s pretty obvious many of you are. The fact any and every comment gets 10+ upvotes in 15 minutes is unnatural for a site like this. There should be some comments with under 5 upvotes but I NEVER see hexbear comments get under that.
I have a hard time believing any community is that gender diverse.
What can I say, we’re a united front when it comes to arguing with liberals. Honestly, we didnt really see upvote totals as high as these before federation, which I think is a combination of the fact that we’re, like I said, united in the face of these issues, and also the fact that some people in other instances agree with us. We care about each other and communist is a collectivist ideology. There’s also a lot of us. And trust me, if you believe I"M not a bot then I can tell you that in the three years before federation noone here stuck me as not being a genuine human being. Other than the bit accounts and like the like, two actual bots we made for specific purposes.
Damn, thats weird because every community I’m a part of is gender diverse. Even not explictly leftist ones, like I’m in a discord server for a streamer called Barry and like half the server is trans or nonbinary. I’m pretty used to interacting with trans and enby people in my life at this point. Have a fair few of them in my life offline as well. This seems like a you problem.
maybe take even five minutes to think about what you’re suggesting here: you believe Russia or China or whatever has created 20.000 bots just for them to sit around on their own instance for three years before federating?
Test running the bots + making it seem more realistic is definitely feasible.
for three years? for something as irrelevant as lemmy??
They’re on every corner of the internet buddy, fake accounts are dirt cheap to run especially in Russia.
Or, maybe, just maybe - and I know it’s hard for some one like you to believe - there are just people out there who disagree with you.
If you’re questioning whether we’re real people you can literally just look through all the posts on hexbear. Our entire history is right there for anyone interested.
What a beautiful brain you have you think anyone has been running a website full of bots for three years in the hope that one day Reddit might implode and they can be used to trick some lost redditors.
also lmao at the upvote thing, you wish you had a community even remotely as close as ours
We love our comrades don’t we folks?
You’re talking about one of the oldest lemmy instances, the most active established instance, and the instance with highest per capita activity, at a time when activity has suddenly become higher than ever because suddenly there are a bunch of redditors saying awful shit all over our feeds and we can go dunk on them without needing to bother with accounts on different sites for the first time in over three years.
You’re also vastly overestimating what bots require and do: all we have to do is look at the largest and most sophisticated botnets - the CIA/State Department astroturfing botnets - to see how even the laziest and crudest copy/pasta spam is all it takes to completely dominate and drown out opposition. Literally no one needs to be sneaky, just yell the exact same verbatim press release quote over and over from ten thousand firstnamelastname12345 accounts with stock photo profile pics and you control the conversation completely and no one cares if you get caught out, like the CIA/State Department bots constantly do.
You’re also claiming that the instance was built up with chatbots more sophisticated than anything there is today - and all of those still-not-coherent most-sophisticated AIs are extremely expensive to run - starting at a time when the most advanced language generating AI was GPT-2, which was only a step or so above old markov chain babbling. You can literally go and look at the ancient post history yourself.
I would believe you, but it’s very possible you’re a bot and everything you just said is an AI trained to say this in order to make people reduce their doubts about your user authenticity.
everyone on the internet is a bot except for you
Or you could go and look at the three years of post history the community has, which notably does not revolve around some herculean effort to gaslight a tiny handful of people from sites that did not exist for 90% of hexbear’s existence and that no one had any realistic expectation would ever exist.
The entire theory rests on the idea that [insert bad country] had LLMs that were five years ahead of the curve and the supercomputers to run them, and this was devoted to generating massive amounts of content on the speculation that maybe someday it would provide legitimization in a fringe internet community, instead of using that massive technological and material advantage to spam as hard as possible with infinite free burner accounts on mainstream social media sites.
LOL try to be a little more realistic of a bot, no human talks like.
started off by dehumanizing us for our pronouns and now you’re dehumanizing us for the way we talk. Truly a shining example of liberal tolerance
How am I dehumanizing anyone? I’m merely calling suspicion to the fact your pronoun usage is so varied, it’s like the botmakers used a random generator for pronouns and didn’t put any effort in.
“how is saying that you aren’t human dehumanizing”
Hey dumbass, I found literal proof your site is infested with bots.
If you really thought they person you were talking too was an AI, you wouldn’t be trying these snarky jabs. What, you think you’re going to hurt a computers feelings?
Humans will read my comments too.
Yeah, and see that you clearly don’t actually think you’re arguing with an AI.
I think it’s probably about 80% bots 30% humans on hexbear.
So you’re just gonna double down on the “actually my shadowy enemies are both impossibly more technologically advanced than the imperial core, but also too stupid to use that advantage and instead waste massive amounts of effort specifically in preparation to gaslight me, the main character, due to their impossible prescience that one day I, the main character, would be using a fringe social media website in the middle of the night, prescience that is literally only used for that one purpose and that purpose alone because it so import to trick me, the main character,” theory then?
Buddy the Russians have tens of millions of bots on every site they’re not just trying to get me.
The chatbots I’m seeing from you guys aren’t even all that realistic.
Congratulations, you’ve successfully gaslit yourself into defining away everyone who disagrees with you as a “bot” and now find yourself haunted on all sides by your shadowy enemies.
And for everyone else: what do you think the odds are some of this unfortunate poster’s brainworm infestation was seeded by literal CIA/State Department astroturfing bots? I give it about a 50/50 that that was an important infection vector, and a good 90% chance that they’ve nodded along while looking at CIA copypasta bot and uncritically believed whatever racist thing it was telling them to.
I give it about 80/30
Remember that time it was leaked that Mi5 was running a bot farm out of a disused mill?
The British state had (has?) a literal propaganda mill.
For months leading up to the general election, you’d see the same comments in their tens, sometimes hundreds, popping up to defend Boris Johnson. And the same same copy-paste comments attacking Jeremy Corbyn.
Are these Russians in the room with us right now?
You caught us, we are all
Prove it or fuck off. We have 280 thousand posts and 3,67 million comments. Find something proving that we’re bots. Shouldn’t be too hard looking at our older posts given how Russia allegedly had to train us for 3 years to get us up to standard.
I wish I could go through life like this as well, damn. Never ever have to entertain the thought that maybe someone else’s wacky opinion is sincere and has a solid foundation to it, but nah man, it’s just a bot. Seems a lot less stressful.
your worldview is 1) dehumanizing and 2) utterly non-falsifiable. treat people like people.