• abbotsbury@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    That graph is what sold me on the concept of socialism, the only way for everyone to benefit from increased productivity is if everyone has a stake in the means of production.

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      7 months ago

      How about this factoid:

      From the invention of agriculture, depending on the fertility of the soil, one farmer could generally sustain 3-5 people.

      Today, a single American farmer feeds, on average, 166 people. There are of course nations that don’t reach that productivity, as there are some that exceed it, but America takes pride at being the best nation ever so let’s look at that a little more.

      Somehow, though we do indeed have more flashing lights and cool noises than ever before, that independent farmer is going extinct, and a very large percentage of America in particular and the world at large lives in quiet desperation.

      Now why is that, exactly? And why can’t that farmer just feed 83 people and not work themselves to death to still barely keep the bank off their back?

      And why would they need a subsidy to survive even if they are feeding the full 166?

      In case you ever wonder why rural America is getting a “bit mad,” maybe think about that a little more.

      And maybe start talking to them and offering actual solutions, because right now they’re mostly just hearing leftists bitching about ending corn subsidies and taking their guns, and rightoids telling them if they hate the right people it will all work out.

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          7 months ago

          How’s that organizing going? It a popular thing to do? Anarchism taking back ground lost to fake libertarians?

          And feel free to tell the “leftists” around here that self defense and the tools necessary for such is a human right.

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            7 months ago

            A large portion of leftists here are very pro-gun, considering unarmed minorities & workers are a lot easier to oppress than armed minorities & workers and all…

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            7 months ago

            uh, youve never met one if you think we give a shit about your guns.

            edit: some of us would ask serious questions about your anti air and anti armor capacity. I dont know enough about guns to do either.

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        7 months ago

        I don’t see how this conflicts with what they said at all? Yes, socialism would help the rural population too. Perhaps even more so.

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        7 months ago

        What also is very weird, is the fact, that the entire agriculture industry is only “profitable” because we directly give the farmers money. Which other market is profitable only because of subsidies? This directly kills smaller farms(and this also has an impact on rural areas) and destroys the entire industry.