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      Can you elaborate a bit? That statement is too broad. Are you saying the goal of every post critical of Biden’s policies is to convince people not to vote for him in November?

      How long have they been going on? Did they start before the last election? Are they brand new for this one? Are the disinformation campaigns from Russia? The RNC?

      I often post things critical of Biden and the DNC in general. Before i hated Biden i hated Hillary. I have been posting about politics since 2011 on Reddit, i even called folks and donated to

      bernie Sanders. Is this a lie? Did i make up this story? Am I part of this russian/RNC campaign?

      Vote for Biden. (Did i say this ironically?)

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          I have not seen this campaign. Are there any particular things i should look out for? Like, are they saying explicitly ‘don’t vote and send a message to the DNC’? I’ve only personally seen peeps saying they’ll not vote for him but that’s not the same

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            It’s everywhere lately. It’s mostly something along the lines of both Biden and Trump being bad choices, so just don’t make a choice to “send a message”. Especially with the Israel/Palestine stuff, a large group has been convinced that Biden providing aid to the massacre of Palestinians means them voting for him is immoral. I agree it fucking sucks, but not voting is the immoral option. Remember how Trump tried to move things even further to Israel’s favor.

            Some of it is a disinformation campaign to get people to not vote, but I think a large portion of what you see is people who have been convinced of it themselves and spread it organically. It’s impossible to tell the difference though, and it doesn’t really matter that they are different. They are effectively the same, but you can’t tell who actually believes it and who just sees it as useful.

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              don’t make a choice to “send a message”.

              no one has said this.

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                I have seen it plenty of times. How can you say no one has said it. In this thread, yeah I don’t think so. It’s all over the place though.

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          That was not low-effort. I had to make that meme.

          You can’t bully someone into voting the way you want, that’s not democratic and bordering on authoritarianism. It also hardens their resolve and makes them more likely to vote against your position.

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      I will vote for him the second he stops supplying arms to a genocidal regime.