• ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    The centrists has their basic needs met and isn’t part of a social group that is threatened so they see both as a waste of tax spending.

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      8 months ago

      Implied by this: centrists see all this mainly as a financial matter.

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        8 months ago

        Centrists are unwilling to accept change or inconvenience. This differs from conservatives who think things should go back to some sort of old way.

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          It’s really impossible to know what you mean here, because conservative should mean to keep doing what works: They should be social democrats (what worked to build the US e.g. Nixon lol). So we shouldn’t use that word any more. True conservatism would be more left wing than democrats today.

          The GOP has become a reactionary or “paleo-conservative” which is really a misnomer too. What they really are now is a theocratic fascist party. But really they have no values at all except power and hate and inequality.

          There are no real centrists, there is no center here. They are really corporatists who are willing to play politics in order to please the big capitalists or plutocracy. They love trump because they can keep cutting of left wing politics and not have a platform. In foreign policy they are fascist as well (american exceptionalism, a belief in inequality based on identity).

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            8 months ago

            The gop are not the reactionary part, the DNC is. They are also centrists between the gop and a ghost of policies to the left.

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          We gotta stop callin them conservatives. These shits are trying to roll things back, not keep it as-is. They’re the opposite of progressive: they’re regressive.

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          8 months ago

          That would be reactioners, not conservatives. You guys also have problem of reactioners taking name of conservatives.

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            8 months ago

            American Centrist are reactionaries, American conservatives are not reactionaries. That is my point.

    • Empricorn@feddit.nl
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      8 months ago

      You’re right, of course, but a key trait of sociopaths is viewing people through the lens of what they can do for them.

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          I’m saying anyone who views other people this way has sociopathic tendencies. They just mentioned centrists.

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      7 months ago

      Balance is required to see things clearly. Just because both sides suck equally in their own ‘special’ way doesn’t change the fact they are their own worst enemy.

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      I wanted to say how I have my basic needs met, isn’t part of social group that is threatened and don’t see left as waste of tax spending, but then I remembered about good Uncle Voencom that happily sends to die for Putin’s yacth, so I don’t count as not part of social group that is threatened.