except for the first all of these are interesting. As for the first: I am pretty sure there are nazis on both sides, and the Azov-thing is a very very flimsy excuse for the war.
Oh I’m completely against Russia’s invasion. I’m just pointing out the propaganda. Russia is absolutely full of Nazis. That doesn’t change the fact that western propaganda covers up the Ukraine Nazi problem. Which they literally reported on prior to the war.
*Edit I’ll also add I absolutely started with that one because I knew it would be super controversial.
Same, I can admit that “both sides” have some pretty lousy people on them and still think that overall Russia are the “baddies” in this war and should ideally lose it. And that Ukraine may have some lousy people but that overall the trajectory of their society is positive and the good folks seem to be on the rise.
I agree. I just get really angry when people hide uncomfortable facts because they’re “our team”. Uncritically supporting anyone is what leads to things like the current Gaza genocide. Yes, Jewish people massively suffered historically and in the recent attack, no that does not justify non-discriminatory bombing of civilians.
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except for the first all of these are interesting. As for the first: I am pretty sure there are nazis on both sides, and the Azov-thing is a very very flimsy excuse for the war.
Oh I’m completely against Russia’s invasion. I’m just pointing out the propaganda. Russia is absolutely full of Nazis. That doesn’t change the fact that western propaganda covers up the Ukraine Nazi problem. Which they literally reported on prior to the war.
*Edit I’ll also add I absolutely started with that one because I knew it would be super controversial.
Same, I can admit that “both sides” have some pretty lousy people on them and still think that overall Russia are the “baddies” in this war and should ideally lose it. And that Ukraine may have some lousy people but that overall the trajectory of their society is positive and the good folks seem to be on the rise.
I agree. I just get really angry when people hide uncomfortable facts because they’re “our team”. Uncritically supporting anyone is what leads to things like the current Gaza genocide. Yes, Jewish people massively suffered historically and in the recent attack, no that does not justify non-discriminatory bombing of civilians.