Stories about surging inflation, successive food price rises and more Kiwis in arrears topped bulletins and filled front pages last year. But recent news about slowing inflation, cheaper food and rising business confidence hasn’t had the same impact. How come?

Within the last month, surveys finding business confidence rising and food price inflation falling for the fourth consecutive month made few headlines.

But the bad news still does.

Last Thursday, TVNZ’s 1 News told viewers “New Zealanders are getting behind on payments”.

“More than 400,000 people fell behind on credit payments and the number of mortgage accounts past due exceeded 20,000,” it reported.

This was also based in the latest monthly report from credit agency Centrix, showing 4000 more Kiwis in arrears than a month earlier.

But last year more people were in arrears - and in 1 News’ own report this week Centrix explained the season was the reason for the latest modest monthly uptick.

“People tend to spend money and incur credit prior to Christmas. And it then comes back to bite them early in the new year,” he explained.

  • @[email protected]
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    64 months ago

    Well part of it may be because wages don’t keep up with inflation even when inflation is low.

    And even if inflation is going down, prices are still rising. So unless we start deflating back to where wages were before the inflation rise started people aren’t really going to be like. Oh hey, my avocado toast only went up 25 cents this quarter instead of 50 cents

    • @DaveOPMA
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      54 months ago

      And even if inflation is going down, prices are still rising. So unless we start deflating back to where wages were before the inflation rise started people aren’t really going to be like. Oh hey, my avocado toast only went up 25 cents this quarter instead of 50 cents

      I’ve seen media articles that misunderstand this. Reducing inflation doesn’t make things cheaper. The RBNZ has a target of 1-3% inflation per year, yes when inflation is too high they take action, but if inflation gets too low then they will also take action to change that and bring it back within the target range.

      Well part of it may be because wages don’t keep up with inflation even when inflation is low.

      Wage growth has historically outperformed inflation. As per the RBNZ calculator, wages increased 132% since 2000, while the CPI (inflation) over that period was 83%.

      • @[email protected]
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        44 months ago

        I wonder though if most of the wage growth is in the top 20 % or so, meaning it’s going way up for those on the top and not so much for the lowest paid, regular kiwi lol

        • @liv
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          14 months ago

          I don’t think so? In the 2000s I used to get yearly increases of about 5% and inflation was 2%.

        • @DaveOPMA
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          4 months ago

          In terms of recent years, in my experience people who jump jobs have got decent pay rises. People on benefits have got decent increases, minimum wage has increased decently.

          My hunch is that it all ends up gobbled up by mortgage debt. People who have higher incomes can borrow more money. People who can borrow more can offer more for the limited supply of housing, causing house prices to sky rocket. These people then find their higher incomes are gobbled up by mortgage payments, and if they took out the mortgage before rates shot up but still have a decent mortgage (like most young home owners), then the rates rises would hurt.

          While inflation takes into account mortgages, it’s only a minor portion by the time the calculations are done.

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        4 months ago

        Wage growth has historically outperformed inflation.

        This.

        This is why pensions are indexed to wage growth and not the CPI.

        • @DaveOPMA
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          24 months ago

          Now you mentioned it, what happened to the election promise to change this? Are pensioners getting a pay cut?

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            Pensioners will be fine. The Govt’s election promise was to stop benefits from rising at the same rate as wages and pensions.

            They announced it in Dec, it will come into effect on April 1.

            So basically SLP etc won’t get cut, it will just fall further and further behind.

            (How they describe it in that article is disingenuous, because it’s well-known that inflation for low income households is higher than the CPI, and that long-term wage inflation is higher than the CPI as well. Which is why doing this to pensions would have been political suicide).

            • @DaveOPMA
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              24 months ago

              I had thought it was National but it was actually an Act policy: https://policy.nz/2023/party-vote/policies/incomes-and-employment/subtopics/superannuation-and-savings

              image of website only showing text as follows: Index superannuation to the consumer price index rather than average wages

              I’m guessing it didn’t make it into the coalition agreement then.

              I just had a thought (tangent to this conversation), why are the options for super affordability seen as “raise the age of entitlement” and “do nothing”. Instead of “raise super entitlement age to 67”, where is “income test super from age 65 until 67”?

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                I didn’t realize ACT wanted to do that. It would never fly, it would effectively make the average elderly New Zealander worse off with pensions effectively worth about 9% less over just 1 term of government. National campaigned on only doing it to beneficiaries.

                Re: the conversation about affording Super, I think part of the problem is New Zealand has this obsession with tax simplicity. Which is nice in some ways but that’s how we ended up with such an unforgiving GST regime (which forms an unusually large component of govt revenue by OECD standards). Similarly, means testing is probably seen as too high in compliance costs.

                • @DaveOPMA
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                  24 months ago

                  Similarly, means testing is probably seen as too high in compliance costs.

                  The government has far more income data than they did 20 years ago. I’d guess those compliance costs would not be as high as they once were, and by growing the means-tested base you can scale up slowly and sort out any growing pains. Plus, think of the savings in superannuation!

                  Or I guess you could think outside the box and revert anti-smoking schemes so people die younger and so you have to pay less superannuation.

      • @[email protected]
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        4 months ago

        I was reading this not realizing it was a NZ community, and boy was I confused with your last two sentences. 🤣

        • @DaveOPMA
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          34 months ago

          Haha I actually intended to link to the RBNZ calculator, but must have forgotten.

          I tried to find a US wage growth calculator (that would let me pick specific times to compare between) but wasn’t able to find something. Inflation over that 2000-now period was pretty much the same as NZ, very slightly lower. Maybe there’s another term used but I haven’t been able to find US data on wage growth since 2000, though I’m sure that data will exist.

    • @liv
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      14 months ago

      Wage inflation normally outpaces the CPI. The last few years have been an anomaly.