• PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    It’s not illegal to monitor someone’s smart water meter as it’s not encrypted. You can tell whenever they shower or go to the bathroom and then send them a log of their activity. It’s not illegal

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        9 months ago

        You can’t get a restraining order unless the person threatens you. It’s also not stalking under my states law.

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            Incredible way to reply “sus”.

            Wondered where that was from:

            In Transformers: Age of Extinction, a 20 year old man shows the father of a 17 year old girl a laminated card of a Texas State law to justify him being in a sexual relationship with the 17 year old girl. This actually happens in the movie.

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          Always wondered what stalking actually was - I mean paparazzi seem legally well protected.

          A new (June 2023) US Supreme Court “standard essentially brushes a street protester with the same stroke as a persistent obsessive who subjects someone to intense and long-term technologically enabled abuse”. Oof.

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      I’m not sure this is true… That’s like saying it’s OK to enter someone else’s house because they accidentally left the door open. Just because it isn’t encrypted doesn’t mean it’s meant for you to listen to.

      Edit: I was under the impression that most smart meters used 4G (at least in the US)… Pretty sure it’s illegal to listen to cell communications.

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        They use an open frequency, not the cell network. You can use an inexpensive rtl-sdr to monitor them. People do it all the time to integrate their meter with home assistant.

        It’s no different than looking at someone’s WiFi network name.

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        Actually wire tapping is illegal but listening to radio frequencies isn’t. Go figure.

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      Better yet, sell their showering activities to shower head manufacturers, and the NSA. Idk why the NSA wants to know when you shower, but I guarantee they do.

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      9 months ago

      I think your understanding of the law is sadly lacking and would definitely get you arrested.

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        If it’s an open radio signal then it’s not illegal to listen to it. It’s no different than a radio station.

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          Potentially not, but if you do that + send them a log of your activity then you’ve absolutely opened yourself up to an investigation.

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            Investigation of what exactly? There’s nothing illegal about it if you don’t make any threats. You could follow someone around and take pictures and notes on them too, not illegal.

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              Text messages: Written or typed messages sent electronically, typically via mobile phones or other digital devices.

              Voicemails: Recorded audio messages left on voicemail systems or digital recording devices.

              Videos: Visual recordings, either in the form of video clips or other visual media, capturing incidents related to the stalking.

              Cards, photos, or letters: Physical or digital materials like greeting cards, photographs, or written correspondences that may have been sent by the stalker.

              Unwanted gifts or items: Physical objects or digital transfers of items that were given to the victim without their consent or desire.

              Social media friend requests or following: Instances where the stalker attempted to connect with or monitor the victim through social media platforms.

              Emails: Digital messages sent through electronic mail services, often containing relevant information or threats.

              This is just a list of information I found on what counts as evidence stalking.

              Do whatever you want dude, good luck. Lemme know how it goes!