98 or so Honda civic that lasted longer than all the newer cars people among family and friends bought new. Imagine getting a piece of shit like a 2018 ish grand caravan which can’t even reverse now, or a brand new ev which got tboned 2 weeks in while shopping and having groceries but a totalled car when you get back. I don’t see any added value in spending multiple tens of thousands only to get built in spyware and more financial risk.