• Chozo@kbin.social
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    Nobody drove them out. This was a decision she made on her own accord and by her own free will.

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      Her free will to run away from a system she perceived as a threat. Are you saying that you’ve been totally comfortable the last 4 years and never once considered the collapse of the system being a threat to your loved ones?

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        I think there are a lot of threats in the world, I think climate change might also be a threat.

        I don’t stake myself out in the antarctic in response.

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          Your response might be better than theirs, but you could be on the chopping block tomorrow as well. You’re still blaming the oppressed for the conditions set by their oppressors.

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            You’re gonna need to identify these oppressors if you want anybody to humor this ridiculous argument.

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              They’re directing action at the top of every hierarchy enforced by violence. If you stop playing stupid you can figure it out for yourself. Many of them are on TV daily advocating for genocide or explaining why kids should starve with a grandfatherly smile. Talk about fucking ridiculous. We can’t have a conversation if you deny reality.

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                You still need to define these people. Who are “they” in this statement?

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                  No, I don’t. You need to define “they” for yourself before you spend the rest of your life defending your oppressors. All I need to do is hit the mute button.

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                    No, that’s not how it works, my guy. You’re the one making a claim that somebody else forced this upon them, the burden of proof is on you. I’m not gonna build your own argument for you.

                    All this snide little “you know who” shit has me feeling like you’re about two comments away from somehow blaming this on Jews or something.

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        Are you saying that you’ve been totally comfortable the last 4 years and never once considered the collapse of the system being a threat to your loved ones?

        Of course I’m not saying that. But I never once thought to myself “Know what would make this situation better? Starving myself and my family in the cold wilderness that none of us are prepared to endure.”

        That thought was something she considered and acted upon. It’s not your fault for having such thoughts, but acting on them is always your fault. Nobody told her “You need to take your family into the mountains, or else”. She did that to herself.

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          Ah, so you’re projecting your insecurity on them by taking satisfaction in the idea that their way of coping with the collapse of the system got them killed, so you’re obviously more in control. If you get cancer from corporate pollution and poor food quality, there’s nothing you could have done. If you get hit by a car, it’s luck of the draw. If a Republican president outlaws your way of life, that’s just the way it is. But since they’re dead, they were obviously at fault.

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              “Know what would make this situation better? Starving myself and my family in the cold wilderness that none of us are prepared to endure.” Your strawman arguments know your motivations better than you do.