The video is bombastic, even by Mr Trump’s standards. Just consider the title: God Made Trump.

  • sqgl@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    10 months ago

    By the way: His rambling does make sense.

    Informally many people do speak in half sentences, zig zagging on tangents, especially schizophrenics. It takes a lot of energy to follow if you are not used to it and Republicans think we are the stupid ones for not being able to follow.

    Try to follow his much derided nuclear uncle speech. It isn’t that hard when you give it a go.

    • jarfil@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      10 months ago

      The best description I’ve heard, is: “finally a politician who speaks his mind!”

      What people don’t realize, is that Trump doesn’t really “speak his mind”, like a schizophrenic would. His longer rambling tirades are actually rehearsed, while the shorter ones he’s been practicing for decades since becoming a professional con man, to the point where they’ve become second nature.

      It’s all a smoke screen, very effective at fooling those less experienced. He’s particularly talented at saying something, and the opposite, plus a tangent. Which is something an actual schizophrenic would never do, but a con man can use to first get people to only hear whatever each one prefers, then over time cherry pick those same words and spin them into any narrative that’s best for themselves.


      Or in other words, but the same, don’t you love words:

      The best and worst description I’ve heard, because hearing is important, is: finally, at the beginning of it all, when someone changes things, a politician like you and me, running the country like a business, who speaks his mind then shuts up, because respect is important, I respect that!

      • sqgl@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        10 months ago

        Do you know of any examples of him being eloquent? That would bolster your hypothesis.

        • jarfil@beehaw.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          There is this video showing Trump’s public speech evolution since the 1980s:

          https://youtu.be/_FLo14GMYos

          He started quite eloquent and on point, then went on adding trick upon trick. I don’t think he’s gone out of character for a long time, as demonstrated by the infamous “grab them by the p🙊” private-ish conversation.

          As a better test of his abilities, I propose you pick any of his speeches and see how many rhetorical devices you can spot:

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_device

          (fair warning: don’t make it a drinking game)

    • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      Yea. And in a way, Trumps greatest political achievement may be that he proved or materialised the “elitism” facade around US Democracy and Government. While previously, to many, especially urban and higher/“educated” class types, it might have just been a Fox News culture war wedge, with Trump and how “no one” saw him coming or understood his appeal, the whole elitist facade and the safe bubble many had taken for granted was revealed.

      • sqgl@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        To be fair, Bernie Sanders did see his appeal. He came from the same down-to-earth angle (even more so, not being a billionaire) and addressed many of the same issues except offering a genuine solution rather than a scam.

        The Democratic party did not like that because they are part of the elite, playing good cop to GOP’s bad cop. USA is screwed until it eliminates its backward two-party system.

        https://fairvote.org

        • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          10 months ago

          Oh for sure, and this was known at the time IIRC, when some polling it something revealed that “Bernie bros will vote for trump”. And, IIRC, the mainstream media response was that it made little sense.

    • Moira_Mayhem@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      His rambling does make sense.

      He just spent an entire speech confusing his own press secretary with Nanci Pelosi…

      • sqgl@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        He confused former house speaker, and now presidential rival, Nikki Haley with Pelosi.

        Didn’t know he also confused his press secretary with Pelosi too. You sure about that? I can’t find it online.

        He also claimed he ran against Obama.