• CitizenKong@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Which is a terrible app. I made the mistake of buying a HP printer and that app crashes more than it works (and the printer doesn’t work without it, of course).

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      9 months ago

      Wait, you have to have an app to print? On Windows? Can’t you just install the driver and print using the Windows print interface? I understand that they have software that might have extra features, but basic printing should only require a driver, at most.

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        9 months ago

        Epson is doing the same. I’m not sure if you can get scanner full features to work without their app.

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          9 months ago

          Maybe not all the features, but basic scanning should work with just a driver. I have a Brother Multi-function that works on Mac OS without Brother software. I think I recall Windows having a scanner interface built-in.

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            9 months ago

            Yes windows does but I reach for my work Mac when I need to scan because Apple did it much better than Microsoft in this case. It’s much more reliable.

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          9 months ago

          That seems crazy to me. Is it a Windows exclusive thing, or is it something they’re rolling out everywhere? I have an Epson printer, only about a year old, and on macOS I don’t have any issues printing or scanning without any Epson software installed on my system. It did pull down drivers when discovering the printer on my network, and I can’t see any features that it would have that I don’t get aside from the “email to print” stuff that I’ve never needed or wanted to use.

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          9 months ago

          There are scanner drivers that allow units to work with the built in scanner app. My brother printer did that. No special app need for printing or scanning.

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        9 months ago

        Pretty sure you can just use the drivers. You certainly can on my HP printer.

        Yeah, the highlighted download on the website will be HP Smart And All It’s Infernal Bullshit, but if you’re in the habit of reading and not just clicking next, next, next then usually there’s a basic driver to do what you want.

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      9 months ago

      Most of HP’s printers have a “Basic Print and Scan Driver” that is listed as “For IT Professional use only” on their support page. I fear the day where HP Smart is the only option.

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        9 months ago

        Try it.

        On USB with the basic driver specifically, modern HP printers will let you use the device for exactly 10 print jobs before it locks all functionality and demands that the unit be connected to the network and an HP account registered.

        Do not buy them. Find a brother instead.

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      9 months ago

      I know why but I still can’t help but ask “why can’t we just use a USB chord or bluetooth signal?” It’s not that hard.

      Say what you want about Apple but this whole printer driver nonsense that we’ve dealt with was solved like 20 years ago. I remember in college just plugging printers into my computer, apple prompting “do you want to download the drivers for this?” I confirmed the model in front of me (95% of the time it was the one detected) and within 10 seconds, I was up and running printing documents.

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        9 months ago

        You can also configure an IP printer port to print to a network device. And for HP, you can use the universal driver, which comes standalone (if you’re not able to tank the driver files out of wherever the software installer puts them). You’ll probably miss out on some of the multifunction features, but you’ll be able to print.

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          9 months ago

          I’m honestly just so grateful that I now have a job where I don’t touch a printer for probably 12 to 18 months at a time