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Wish America would be more like France on some things.
I wish the rest of Europe would be more like France specially on this thing.
Just need to limit the First Amendment.
Not at all, you just have to act upon their threats and to stop ignoring them. After the Waco Seige and the OKC bombing the government is scared to act against extremely violent right wing groups like MAGA.
Well…MAGA individuals. There isn’t really a “central organization” to MAGA, it’s like the right wanting to get rid of “ANTIFA”. If I remember correctly,the Waco Seige and OKC bombings were associated with actual groups: the Branch Davidians, and Elohim City (performed by Timothy McVeigh), respectively.I mean, sure, there’s a central head, but they don’t exactly hold meetings and make plans (unless you want to loosely count Drumpf’s rallies).Damnit, just read the comment below mine. I had no idea that they were THAT well organized. That’s pretty fucking scary.
Oh contraire, it is centrally organized and coordinates it’s messaging with broader GOP support across the entire right wing. It’s tremendously effective, which is why America is close to succumbing to fascism in November.
Also, the Trump trials are seeing fewer donations and a lot of the oligarchs who are paying for all this have stopped. Sadly, each of he oligarchs can afford to keep paying for this alone and have it succeed so there will likely be little change in his attempt to seize power. The only thing we, as a voting public not endowed by billions, is limitnthe money spent in politics and keep politicians accountable: holdnthem to a higher standard than the public because their inlfuence is so much more impactful than the public. We also should limit the wealth a person can exercise in politics, limiting the spending a single party can perform to the pre-Citizens United ruling.
Money in politics let’s the richest speak loudest and ignore those who aren’t able to afford a TV media empire.
Trump is the central MAGA organization.
…I’ll allow it. 😆
I don’t think you realize how easy it would be for the government to just start labeling everything as “a threat.“ It’s not like there’s some objective bar. That’s the whole thing about speech. It’s incredibly subjective most of the time.
Most countries have some limitations on speech, the US really is the outlier on how broad their interpretation of free speech is, and while yes, there are problems in any restriction of speech, it’s not like every other country is an authoritarian hellscape either. In fact despite the US’s lax speech laws, y’all seem to be flirting with authoritarianism quite consistently.
That’s where the courts come in to play, they interpret the law while considering the specifics of each case. Good restrictions are narrowly written, and then interpreted by the courts.
That’s difficult, yes. But clearly just allowing the free-for-all isn’t leading to great results either.
Fair points
This is little more than a public relations exercise - when the status quo in France becomes really threatened, they will turn to these very same nazis to protect it in a heartbeat… just like any other political establishment would.
This is really no different than the Derek Chauvin case - they will happily throw a few of the (completely expendable) white supremacists under the bus to spare the rest from scrutiny and divide the justified anger the population feels toward them. But if you think that this in any way alters the role that right-wing ideology performs for the status quo you are pretty naive.
