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              No, I’m fine with that definition, that’s a sane use of the term. Part of me thinks we’d be better off reserving “nazi” for those who openly align themselves with the historical group and just use the descriptor “ultranationalist” for modern instances of ultranationalism. Might reduce equivocation.

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                I think the problem there is that a shit load of people are so uneducated that they don’t associate nationalism with the nazis, they only associate the holocaust as the bad thing they did and really don’t understand that ultranationalist ideology will lead to a repeat of what occurred over and over again. Thus it becomes much easier to just say nazi when referring to these ultranationalists even though it’s technically incorrect when the ultranationalism they support is actually polish, or american, or fucking italian, idk etc etc etc. They’re all have pretty much the same goals just in a different set of completely made up lines on a map.

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      So you admit that Antifa are as Nazis like Maga are? Or are rightoids worse for some arbitrary reason again?

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        Antifa are not ultranationalists. The vast majority are anarchists and communists, which are internationalist ideologies. Literally the polar opposite.

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        You could call them an authoritarian paramilitary group, but they’re not nazis. That doesn’t automatically make them good, it’s just that nazism is a specific political ideology.

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            I’ve yet to meet an anarchist following anything like a coherent ideology in that respect. They all seem very eager to impose themselves on others. I suppose one guy took a more academic position, but still seemed to idolise violence. Maybe the authority is decentralised, but frequently wielded as explicit force. Not far from libertarianism in that regard. Doesn’t appeal.

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                Cluster munitions, for all I care. What’s that got to do with anything? I was explaining my use of the word authoritarian. I’d make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so. But my place in society is installing irrigation and water management systems, I have to focus on that.

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                  [reposting this comment, last one apparently never made it over to lemmy.world]

                  What’s that got to do with anything?

                  Stopping nazi rallies is the main thing antifa does. You seem to oppose them doing it.

                  I’d make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so

                  But you’re not. None of us are. So that leaves what other options?