• joneskind@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Are you saying none of the Skyrim’s developers played Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2? Did you?

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      8 months ago

      Did RPG game developers play an RPG before developing an RPG? Yes. That’s how influences work. I didn’t play BG1 or BG2 because I was a child.

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        8 months ago

        Did RPG game developers play an RPG before developing an RPG? Yes.

        So, what the point of your comment about Skyrim then ?

        I didn’t play BG1 or BG2 because I was a child.

        Maybe you should begin with that before saying Skyrim had any influence on BG3, don’t you think?

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          My point was that Skyrim didn’t ruin RPGs because there still exists demand for RPGs and quality content. Without seminal games like Skyrim, you don’t get proper investment in games like BG3.

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            8 months ago

            Without seminal games like Skyrim, you don’t get proper investment in games like BG3.

            What are you even trying to say? BG3 wouldn’t exist without Skyrim? did you ever play Diablo 1 or 2? World Of Warcraft during Burning Crusade or Wrath Of The Lich King?

            Skyrim didn’t bring anything new. Skyrim is just a drop in the ocean, with no impact on Baldur’s Gate 3, as there were tons of greater and more impactful games before that.

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              8 months ago

              In the form it is today? No. You don’t get $100M to develop the game if you don’t have previous titles selling 60M copies.

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                Now we’re talking about money? Do you have the slightest idea of how much of a cash cow WoW have been for Blizzard since 2004? In 2010 WoW had more than 10 millions subscribers. $100m a month, not counting the price of the expansion packs.

                What about GTA? 400 millions copies sold.

                Skyrim could have failed miserably, you’d still be able to play BG3 in is exact same form as today. Skyrim is no exception. As a matter of fact, Skyrim wouldn’t exist if it was not for previous successful games.

                You are overly and pointlessly focused on Skyrim.

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                  8 months ago

                  You named two games that are entirely different. Those two made their money on multiplayer. Skyrim is a single player RPG experience that encourages mods. Skyrim’s success as a single player experience enabled games like Dragon Age Inquisition and Witcher 3 and Divinity OS2 to get the funding they needed to become fully realized.

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                    8 months ago

                    lol

                    What does Skyrim, a first person realtime 3D game has to do with Baldur’s Gate games? Absolutely nothing.

                    So what’s the point of even bringing it in the conversation, if by your own words I am not allowed to bring different type of games?

                    Stop making U-turns every time I tell you things you don’t want to hear.

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                    Divinity OS2 to get the funding they needed to become fully realized

                    Divinity

                    Get the funding they needed

                    Lol don’t talk out your ass just cuz your point is running out of steam. I don’t wholly disagree that Skyrim wasn’t a massive impact in gaming, but it wasn’t this massive turning point for RPGs to suddenly become popular.

                    Skyrim was an ambitious project that somehow didn’t bite Bethesda in the ass. It taught tons of valuable lessons including laying the grounds for the great open worlds we have now. Nobody in 2011 was imagining games having the scale of open world we see in shit like Elden Ring, but Skyrim showed a glimpse to the future.

                    The flip of that being that Skyrim didn’t save RPGs from disappearing and they were already a massively popular genre and to say that future RPGs relied on its success, especially 12 years down the road, is a huge overstatement that reeks of fanboyism.