The 3rd party apps are closing at the end of this month, which means there’ll be somewhere around a week or so of people realising just how bad the official app is, plus decreased quality content as the actually-motivated people who post things continue their gradual migration away from reddit and driving redditors to seek other places to gather.
A lonely guy playing a creepy hentai game gets some sexual gratification from his time spent interacting with a piece of software and is at least somewhat self-aware. He knows it’s just software, even if he ‘married’ his bodypillow.
Meanwhile there are increasing numbers of people unaware they’re regularly interacting with bots online, not realising one of the reasons social media is making them sadder is because they’ve atttempting to fulfill their need for social interaction with a facsimile thereof.
It’s not unlike Idiocracy, where they give the plants Brawndo instead of water, then wonder why the plants are dying. Vast swathes of the world are feeding their social needs with social media brawndo.
Also you’re blaming the medium, rather than the malicious actors.
If AI text generative technology was around a century earlier you’d have people being penpals or print newspaper write-ins with a bot instead. Communicating through text is inherently risky, so best to blame the people who abuse that fact instead.
The medium structures and drives the interactions. Decisions about the medium are amplified in effect. (Some) people have always been bad, but what they do and what effect it has varies with the medium.
Yup. I’m Anarch157a everywhere (except Mastodon, for reasons), Steam, Lemmy, Discord, etc. Having my old - now deleted - Reddit account as a bot could spill over my identity in other services.
I haven’t deleted mine yet because there are still comments I’d like to edit that are currently in private subreddits. Only when I’m sure everything I’ve ever said on reddit is now the same text urging people to abandon reddit in favor of the fediverse will I delete the account itself.
Meanwhile all of the repost bots can post and comment on each other’s threads keeping the Reddit server humming away.
How are they going to do that when the API changes hit? The API changes affect all third party interactions with Reddit unless you scrape their HTML or do some type of browser automation. I’m going to assume that 99% of developers are using the REST API since there was no reason to do otherwise. That means mobile apps, bots, third party tools and probably even some browser extensions are all going to go dark.
They will be fine. But the extension itself is on its last legs. Reddit is slowly breaking old reddit by making features or markdown new reddit only. The team also seems to be down to 2 people and the project is in maintenance mode.
The API charges are only when an Auth key is used over a certain threshold. Most bots are going to be fine, it’s just the few of them that were operating above that threshold.
3rd party apps are being killed because they use their own API Auth key for essentially everybody. One considered solution was having each user generate their own key and input it, but when a dev asked admins about that, they said it wasn’t allowed.
People will come, it’s just a matter of time and having the patience to cultivate organic communities rather than trying to simply will them into existence all at once a la GooglePlus (or whatever their attempt at a social network was called)
I have to wait 3 seconds to load a post. Collapsing a comment is laggy, takes like 0.5 seconds at least. Scrolling itself is laggy.
It sure doesn’t seem like a lot when I write seconds but it’s absolutely TERRIBLE when you use it more than a minute. I only have official app for chat and instant messages because Infinity didn’t send me any notifications :(
I’ll use old reddit on mobile with an extension that helps with mobile usage, along with official reddit for the aforementioned functions as usual.
I’m out of the loop here, what happens on the 7th?
The 3rd party apps are closing at the end of this month, which means there’ll be somewhere around a week or so of people realising just how bad the official app is, plus decreased quality content as the actually-motivated people who post things continue their gradual migration away from reddit and driving redditors to seek other places to gather.
Meanwhile all of the repost bots can post and comment on each other’s threads keeping the Reddit server humming away.
Good riddance.
It’s kinda funny in a dystopian way.
A lonely guy playing a creepy hentai game gets some sexual gratification from his time spent interacting with a piece of software and is at least somewhat self-aware. He knows it’s just software, even if he ‘married’ his bodypillow.
Meanwhile there are increasing numbers of people unaware they’re regularly interacting with bots online, not realising one of the reasons social media is making them sadder is because they’ve atttempting to fulfill their need for social interaction with a facsimile thereof.
It’s not unlike Idiocracy, where they give the plants Brawndo instead of water, then wonder why the plants are dying. Vast swathes of the world are feeding their social needs with social media brawndo.
Conversational masturbation.
Also you’re blaming the medium, rather than the malicious actors.
If AI text generative technology was around a century earlier you’d have people being penpals or print newspaper write-ins with a bot instead. Communicating through text is inherently risky, so best to blame the people who abuse that fact instead.
I don’t think that’s implied in the post. Also reddit inc is complicit in the bot farming since it boosts their engagement metrics.
The medium structures and drives the interactions. Decisions about the medium are amplified in effect. (Some) people have always been bad, but what they do and what effect it has varies with the medium.
Thats an interesting take on things
But, Brawndo has what plants crave. It has electrolytes.
At some point, it will just be repost bots having conversations in the comments of posts “created” by other repost bots.
/r/subreddit_simulator wasn’t just an experiment, it was prophetic.
It ended up as /u/Spez’s roadmap for the future of Reddit.
I realized that after deleting my oldest reddit account I should have sold the damn thing.
Might work out how to do that yet for my remaining accounts
I like my username too much to have a hand in making it shill ads and misinformation.
Yup. I’m Anarch157a everywhere (except Mastodon, for reasons), Steam, Lemmy, Discord, etc. Having my old - now deleted - Reddit account as a bot could spill over my identity in other services.
I haven’t deleted mine yet because there are still comments I’d like to edit that are currently in private subreddits. Only when I’m sure everything I’ve ever said on reddit is now the same text urging people to abandon reddit in favor of the fediverse will I delete the account itself.
Where did you find pricing info? I wouldn’t have guessed accounts would be worth much with the rampant botting
Accounts with 100,000+ karma are $200 and up, apparently. Source: savingadvice dot com /articles/2023/05/31/1089629_sell-your-reddit-account.html
On playerup dot com /acconts/redditacconut/ I see one “rare account” that’s 13 years old going for $120 and a 14 year old one for $150
Most are a few years old, just barely a few thousand karma, and $17-25.
Hah! I could have got a round of drinks in rather than deleting mine. But fuck 'em.
Ice cream? Do you like ice cream?
How are they going to do that when the API changes hit? The API changes affect all third party interactions with Reddit unless you scrape their HTML or do some type of browser automation. I’m going to assume that 99% of developers are using the REST API since there was no reason to do otherwise. That means mobile apps, bots, third party tools and probably even some browser extensions are all going to go dark.
You can still use the APIs but you do it via a browser. So it is slightly more annoying for botters but a death blow for apps.
I hadn’t thought about that, are they killing RES? Killing RES is the same as killing old reddit.
They will be fine. But the extension itself is on its last legs. Reddit is slowly breaking old reddit by making features or markdown new reddit only. The team also seems to be down to 2 people and the project is in maintenance mode.
it’s all done browser side on your api token so it will be fine.
but you are 100% correct, old reddit without dark mode is functionally the same as deleting reddit.
The API charges are only when an Auth key is used over a certain threshold. Most bots are going to be fine, it’s just the few of them that were operating above that threshold.
3rd party apps are being killed because they use their own API Auth key for essentially everybody. One considered solution was having each user generate their own key and input it, but when a dev asked admins about that, they said it wasn’t allowed.
Its gonna be interesting when Reddit turns into r/SubredditSimulator
I just wish more people knew to come here. I even snuck this alternative into a presentation at a Fortune 150…
People will come, it’s just a matter of time and having the patience to cultivate organic communities rather than trying to simply will them into existence all at once a la GooglePlus (or whatever their attempt at a social network was called)
like everything google kills it was the best of it’s kind but wasn’t immediately profitable so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have only used the official app and can I just say, the experience has gotten noticeably worse in the past 6 weeks or so.
I have to wait 3 seconds to load a post. Collapsing a comment is laggy, takes like 0.5 seconds at least. Scrolling itself is laggy.
It sure doesn’t seem like a lot when I write seconds but it’s absolutely TERRIBLE when you use it more than a minute. I only have official app for chat and instant messages because Infinity didn’t send me any notifications :( I’ll use old reddit on mobile with an extension that helps with mobile usage, along with official reddit for the aforementioned functions as usual.
It’ll take about a week for the ‘find out’ phase to wrap up, then we’re onto the lesser known ‘baby please come back I can change’ phase.
And like a gaslighting abusive ex they won’t change!
total reddit death. TRD