• jg1i@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    “a popular init system”? It’s the main init system now. Look at it. Systemd is the captain now.

    You’ll have to learn it if you use any mainstream distro. Like at work. It is inevitable.

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      Yes, that’s what ‘popular’ becomes.

      Note that it’s often labeled as ‘popular’ and not ‘good’.

      I’m sick of redhat’s internal junk. It’s just to sell courses anyway.

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    1 year ago

    I knew a Arch guy who called it Sys-dumb-d. He refused to run systemd.

    I could mostly care less. It’s…fine. I miss upstart and it’s simplicity. Kind of wish it had been actually developed to maturity, but here we are with an init system that also wants to do DNS.

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      You need to use its init system (systemd), its logging system (systemd-journald, and can be forwarded to old school syslog), and some dbus implementation.

      If that’s an unreasonable requirement for your usecase, check out OpenRC

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    It’s never been popular by anybody except RedHat, that’s how they sell courses end certifications.

    Still haven’t found a way to start something after networking has finished when it takes a bit to set everything up. (and no, not going to limit vlans, tunnels,…)

    It’s a technical ‘solution’ for a marketing problem.

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      Wouldn’t you just set “networking” as a dependency on the unit of whatever you need started after?

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        That’s what you would do with the init scripts, as that environment waits until the previous one is finished. (ie you know you have working network) Systemd is in a hurry and there ‘after’ seems to mean ‘not before’ instead of ‘after <specified> is finished’, so after networking is started it advances to the next in line.

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        1 year ago

        I love how fucking lennaert subtly changed that. Who cares that it complicates classic tools.