• zeppo@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    That means you’re trusting the VPN company with your traffic. It’s not clear whether that’s better or not.

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      10 months ago

      There are VPNs out there that have been taken to court to provide information and they couldn’t provide anything when compelled because there was nothing to provide.

      But ya, if you choose a bad one then it’s can be a problem.

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      10 months ago

      Its clearly “better”. Its 2 levels of abstraction instead of one. And one of them claims to hold or record any data. It however is just a claim.

      So the key is that a vpn is better, but is it good enough? Alot of the awnswer is going to depend on how nefarious your usage is and how much effort is worth to find out.

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        10 months ago

        The ISP’s ability to watch all your traffic is removed in favor of the VPN company, so it’s still 1 level, isn’t it? The thing is one has no idea how much data they retain or what they do with it. For all we’d know the VPN company could be operated directly by the CIA or whatever.

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          10 months ago

          ISP’s are regulated. I think it’s fairly common that they’re required to hold on to all traffic data for some period of time. Makes it much easier for cops to investigate piracy and such.

          As for the trustworthiness of VPN’s, there are ways of evaluating that without just blindly trusting them.

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            10 months ago

            That’s what I was wondering, whether laws (varying by country of course) required VPNs to also hold data for some period of time. I could picture some people using a sketchy VPN that’s actually worse than their ISP, too.

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              10 months ago

              Not as far as I know, but even if your country regulates VPNs, you can just use one from another country.

              I’ve used Mullvad previously. They’re very good about privacy. You can even pay with crypto if you’re extra paranoid.