“I don’t have any moral responsibility because I believe the trolley shouldn’t exist in the first place.” Totally nuanced and not completely missing the point of the analogy at all. If only everyone knew we could just magically make the trolley disappear we could have skipped over the decades of philosophy written about the trolley problem because the solution is so easy!
Yes, it’s totally a strawman. You definitely don’t think that we should not pull the lever and instead question why the trolley exists. That’s definitely not what your original comment said. Because those two are mutually exclusive anyway. We can only ever do one thing, like question the existence of the trolley or pull the lever to save more lives. It’s definitely not possible to vote to keep things from getting worse while also working the other 364 days to dismantle the trolley.
Yes of course. They will definitely get the same outcome whether Trump or Harris wins. Trump totally wouldn’t do things Harris wouldn’t to make the lives of immigrants and trans people worse. After all, they both support military camps for immigrants and bans on trans healthcare, right?
Of course, because obviously the lives of American trans people are less important than your feeling of self-righteousness at not voting. Let’s let the trolley roll over trans people here and abroad! That’s definitely better than at least saving one of them with the little power we have!
You have the geopolitical awareness level of a goldfish, it’s impressive.
The lives of immigrants and trans people will be objectively worse under Trump than Harris.
The same Harris who promised to fund Trump’s border wall with hundreds of millions of dollars??
Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called “un-American” during the Trump administration.
Ahh yes, because a wall is the same as military camps for immigrants. Sending troops to go door to door to arrest millions the same as a wall that hasn’t done anything!
I don’t know why you seem incapable of seeing that two bad things can be unequally bad. Speeding and murder are both wrong, but one of them is way worse. A Harris admin who makes legal crossing more difficult is not good, but better than a Trump admin making concentration camps.
You will be responsible for the camps and the trans genocide because you are incapable of doing the bare minimum to stop it. All the while pretending that taking no action means you also take no moral responsibility. You don’t. You have the power to make those bad outcomes less likely and you are actively choosing to do nothing.
“I don’t have any moral responsibility because I believe the trolley shouldn’t exist in the first place.” Totally nuanced and not completely missing the point of the analogy at all. If only everyone knew we could just magically make the trolley disappear we could have skipped over the decades of philosophy written about the trolley problem because the solution is so easy!
I mean you said those words, no need to beat yourself up cause you have a little straw on your face.
That’s what it sounds like you are saying. If that’s not it, why didn’t you tell your solution?
I can’t improve anyone’s reading comprehension from where I stand.
Who said it was my responsibility to offer a simplistic solution to an undefined problem?
What are you, 5? “I know you are but what am I?”
You quoted yourself, then attacked the strawman with all you had.
You then expect me to defend your made up straw argument, failed.
Since you seem to need it, I’ve explained it to you like a 5 year old.
Yes, it’s totally a strawman. You definitely don’t think that we should not pull the lever and instead question why the trolley exists. That’s definitely not what your original comment said. Because those two are mutually exclusive anyway. We can only ever do one thing, like question the existence of the trolley or pull the lever to save more lives. It’s definitely not possible to vote to keep things from getting worse while also working the other 364 days to dismantle the trolley.
How incredibly privileged and ignorant must one be to believe their lives are being kept from “from getting worse” under Harris?
Yes of course. They will definitely get the same outcome whether Trump or Harris wins. Trump totally wouldn’t do things Harris wouldn’t to make the lives of immigrants and trans people worse. After all, they both support military camps for immigrants and bans on trans healthcare, right?
Of course, because obviously the lives of American trans people are less important than your feeling of self-righteousness at not voting. Let’s let the trolley roll over trans people here and abroad! That’s definitely better than at least saving one of them with the little power we have!
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You have the geopolitical awareness level of a goldfish, it’s impressive.
The same Harris who promised to fund Trump’s border wall with hundreds of millions of dollars??
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/27/kamala-harris-flip-flops-border-wall
Ahh yes, because a wall is the same as military camps for immigrants. Sending troops to go door to door to arrest millions the same as a wall that hasn’t done anything!
I don’t know why you seem incapable of seeing that two bad things can be unequally bad. Speeding and murder are both wrong, but one of them is way worse. A Harris admin who makes legal crossing more difficult is not good, but better than a Trump admin making concentration camps.
You will be responsible for the camps and the trans genocide because you are incapable of doing the bare minimum to stop it. All the while pretending that taking no action means you also take no moral responsibility. You don’t. You have the power to make those bad outcomes less likely and you are actively choosing to do nothing.