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    12 days ago

    I’ve come to understand that the healthiest people aren’t vegans.

    It’s just that despite often lacking certain nutrients, vegan diets tend to enforce being at least kind of healthy unless you go ridiculously overboard on fruit or vegan junkfood.

    But eating beef/honey/eggs being “self-harming”? Fuck you very much.

    I am completely disinterested in your arguments, and will continue buying ridiculously good foods from abusive sources. Sources that I’d prefer to regulate in terms of animal rights, but every time that comes up, you people divert the conversation to “if you’re not gonna be vegan you’re evil either way so it doesn’t matter” and everyone tunes out.

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      12 days ago

      Sources that I’d prefer to regulate in terms of animal rights, but every time that comes up, you people divert the conversation to “if you’re not gonna be vegan you’re evil either way so it doesn’t matter” and everyone tunes out.

      Pack it up, vegans. This person was going to wish upon a star to regulate animal agriculture, which would’ve done it, but we just had to go and advocate for making material changes on a level we have control over, and that forced them to be explicitly fine with abuse. If only we had your thoughts and prayers, what a horrible miscalculation on our part.

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        12 days ago

        Thoughts and prayers? No. Fines. Potentially jailtime. Potentially forcing them to sell farms and factories.

        But you do not want it. You’re delusional and thinking the animals will just have to endure for a little while longer while you’re working on getting the entire planet to switch to a vegan diet.

        Besides, you need the worst cases to stay around.

        You need to film conversion content, and it’ll have to be fresh and gruesome content to be effective.

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          12 days ago

          Thoughts and prayers? No. Fines. Potentially jailtime. Potentially forcing them to sell farms and factories.

          And how do you intend to implement those things? Thoughts and prayers.

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              11 days ago

              Oh, which candidate that supports those things you mentioned were you going to vote for but now aren’t? Love to hear even a single name.

              Of course, you can’t answer that, because that’s not a realistic path in the short term. Let’s say you were going to run for office on that platform. First, the major corporations that have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are are going to dump money into the opposition. Second, people will oppose it because it would increase the price of meat - they’ll say you’re an elitist who wants to make it so that only the rich can have access to it, and emphasize the effect it’ll have on grocery bills. They’ll also talk about the environmental impact your regulations would cause, since it would take more land to treat animals humanely. And they will also call you a hypocrite for refusing to give up meat while calling the production process unethical, to the point of being deserving of jail time.

              So explain to me how exactly you would’ve overcome those obstacles, if only us mean insidious vegans weren’t so preoccupied with asking you to give up your treats.

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                    11 days ago

                    The animal rights movement was genuinely kind of strong until you fucks went hardcore in public the last couple decades, sabotaging it.

                    Before that public sentiment was going our way. Now it’s more or less set in stone that humanity will without pause continue abusing animals in truly gruesome ways for at least a few more generations, with a minority vegan population. You’re ignorant of how you shaped the future of these animals, by making animals rights activism far less popular than it was and should’ve stayed you made it significantly easier to disregard animal rights activism as unimportant noise almost nobody will pay attention to… The vegans of the 2000’s and 2010’s should’ve been compensated handsomely by factory farm corporations for all the work they did to make a mockery of animal rights.