With the Voice to Parliament Referendum date announced to be October 14 2023, this thread will run in the lead up to the date for general discussions/queries regarding the Voice to Parliament.

The Proposed Constitutional Amendment

Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

there shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice; the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples; the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.

Past Discussions

Here are some previous posts in this community regarding the referendum:

Common Misinformation

  • “The Uluru Statement from the Heart is 26 Pages not 1” - not true

Government Information

Amendments to this post

If you would like to see some other articles or posts linked here please let me know and I’ll try to add it as soon as possible.

  1. Added the proposed constitutional amendment (31/08/2023)
  2. Added Common Misinformation section (01/07/2023)

Discussion / Rules

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  • Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone
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    1 year ago

    It doesn’t matter its still a step in the right direction.

    Besides its just asking to be heard and that’s it, the voice doesn’t have the power to make any rules or changes. So it really doesn’t matter.

    What does matter if it it’s voted down now it will never comr back meaning one nations people will have no chance at a well legislated voice in the future.

    So if your argument is no because its not set up well enough thats shit, because we need to crawl before running.

    • Whirlybird@aussie.zone
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      1 year ago

      This doesn’t make your voice heard any more than any of the existing indigenous advisory boards. It just gives you one more voice to be ignored, and to be used as a political tool by the government of the time. LNP get in and make some cronie the single person in the voice who makes recommendations that harm indigenous people - how does that help you?

      Your argument is basically “it’s better than nothing and will lead to more”. My argument is that it is nothing, and if it goes through it will be pointed at for decades as a way to go “look we gave them a voice, we don’t need to do any more”.

      • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
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        1 year ago

        Sorry mate this is kind of absurd.

        When new legislation is passed by government, yes there is (rightly) much debate between elected representatives around exactly how that legislation should work.

        Once legislation is passed there is rarely much meaningful change beyond incremental improvements / adaptions.

        You’re suggesting that every newly elected government will just discard legislation from the previous government. If this were likely, every new government would have been doing it with every contentious issue throughout our history.

        • samson@aussie.zone
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          1 year ago

          This isn’t much of a thing in this country but it’s not impossible. Fear radicalisation and trivial legislation. Not an argument against the voice though.