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    Man, these days you know a hexbear without even looking at the user.

    I mean this is complete baloney! You are also using the comparison to establish some kind of “evil slavers vs democracy” narrative that wasn’t in place at all in China during the warlord era. They were all equally horrid.

    This is, at best, akin to a war between all states in the US after the Boston Tea Party and a communist state, let’s just pick Arizona, slowly winning the wars and forcing the remaining faction onto Hawaii. Then the socialist party forced anyone who could read, more or less, to work themselves to death in a field in the name of communism. Glory to the people!!!

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        I agree my characterisation is far off the mark. But the poster I responded to wasn’t even in the same galaxy, so I still considered it an improvement.

        Also, I’m not Jesus Christ 🤪

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            They did not say that they don’t know shit about the topic, not even close. They simply said their characterization is far off the marks. That means that their understanding of the conflict is far from perfect, but they absolutely do know shit about it.

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              They didn’t say they were wrong

              They just said they were far off the mark

              That means their understanding is far from perfect

              They absolutely do know their shit

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                  far off the mark

                  Can it be time for you to shut up yet?

                  To think that you saw me make fun of you for the game of telephone you played with yourself and decided to take the final translation and defend yourself with it. Way to miss the fucking point. “Far from the mark” was already cope by someone who was simply fucking wrong about what they said.

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                    I am not going to shut up. I am not going to shut up at anyone’s request. I also believe that their comment had a certain degree of truth to it.

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      So in your hypothetical analog, a completely made up, random, nonexistent party that never had any relevancy during that time period takes over America, and somehow you know more than OP and that proves china bad

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      I agree. People should take how the Chinese government and the US government treat their people into consideration.

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        So are we gonna talk about how USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world? Are we going to talk about income equality in USA vs China? Are we going to talk about the Concentration camps for refugee children on the USA border? (If you are going to bring up Xinjiang I’m going to need some photographic evidence beyond vibes and zenz doing bad statistical analysis)

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          What does incarceration rate have to do with how good the country is? Do you really believe that the income is more equal in China? If you are going to talk about the “concentration camps” on the USA border I’m going to need photo evidence too. Here is a photo of the camp in Xinjiang:

          ::: spoiler :::

          No, this photo is not fake.

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            What does incarceration rate have to do with how good the country is?

            not “how good it is” “How it treats its people” America locks up its people way more (531/100k) than other China (119/100k). Is imprisoning people treating them well?

            Kids in cages. There’s some photo’s there and I think you’ll probably respect WaPo as a source.

            removed externally hosted image

            You can try again but I’m gonna guess that it is just a picture of a building or some prisoners with no context on how many people are there or why they are there.

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              I apologize for saying “how good it is.” I was in a rush and couldn’t think of a better phrase.

              I just read through the article from the Washington Post you linked. That really is bad and I believe that the Trump government should not have treated the (although illegal) immigrants. The grim appearance of that facility really isn’t something that the immigrants should have faced when they set foot on the US. However, compare that to the situation in Xinjiang. Here is an opinion post from the Washington Post. What China is doing to its Uyghurs is genocide. Not that it justifies anything that the US have done to its immigrants, but in comparison what the US is doing seem pretty mild.