• Nik282000@lemmy.ca
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      4 days ago

      How about we switch to ACTUAL public healthcare, not one where hospitals and doctors offices have to turn a profit delivering services at a price set by the government?

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        Honestly I don’t have an opinion on that. In the immortal words of Donald Trump, “nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated”

        I’m not gonna pretend I have the answers. I’m not a policy expert. But from what I’ve seen, I think our system works pretty well when it’s well-funded. Maybe a different public system would work even better, IDK.

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        Now now now, let’s not get crazy and expect a reasonable idea to be the right one.

        Obviously the only way forward is privatized healthcare, and maximized profits, until the lower class revolts and we do it all over again.

        Everyone who gets it needs to start explaining to everyone who doesn’t why public services should never be expected to make profit, should be expected and accepted that public services generally operate at a loss, and that none of that is a bad thing. Canada is in desperate need of a narrative change and a legislative overhaul if we are going to survive what is coming as a intact country.

        System failure is a fun thing. We need to trim the bloat to try and avoid it.

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          No. no. Privatization is great. Im american and its so much more exciting. Every time I get the big square envelope I never know if its approval or denial. Its like one of those exciting tv shows you might watch where you definitely would not want to be a character in it.

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            Breaking Bad was amazing that is for sure. haha

            I still will never understand how Canadians can look at privatization down south and be all “I want some of that!”. I have to congratulate the consecutive governments who managed to turn Canadians against the very things they fought for decades to get.

            Have to respect the game even if it is incredibly evil.

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              I still will never understand how Canadians can look at privatization down south and be all “I want some of that!”

              We don’t. Unfortunately, when Canadians go to the polls, the thing a lot of the less thoughtful are thinking is “I want [last administration that didn’t magically fix all the problems] out of power. I don’t care what their opponents actually intend to do with the province/country as long as they’re gone.” I have no solution for this.

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                We don’t.

                “Canadians” in this context is Canadians who support privatization. Are you a part of that group and trying to alert me to a misunderstanding regarding your ideology? Or did you miss the context?

                Unfortunately, when Canadians go to the polls, the thing a lot of the less thoughtful are thinking is “I want [last administration that didn’t magically fix all the problems] out of power. I don’t care what their opponents actually intend to do with the province/country as long as they’re gone.” I have no solution for this.

                Some Canadians aren’t willfully ignorant useful idiots, and the solution is making more Canadians educated enough to grasp the fact that buzz words and anger don’t get politicians who do good elected in to office. The solution is educating Canadians on the fact that no other party other than Liberal or Conservative has ever held Federal Power. The closest to that being changed was the NDP Opposition win under Layton, and now we could not be further away from breaking the trend.

                It is the responsibility of those with the right information to provide it to everyone else. Get on it if you actually care. Start with understanding that “Canadians” vary greatly from province to province and coast to coast.

                There can be no “we” while our politicians play American style politics. That is the point.

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                  I don’t think the context you assumed is quite as clear as you thought it was. I’ll leave the rest of it.

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                    I don’t think the context you assumed is quite as clear as you thought it was. I’ll leave the rest of it.

                    You could have just not responded to my comment. Next time, you should do that instead.

                    Take care.

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          Exactly this! Very few people ever complain that the military is losing money. Healthcare should be the same way. It should operate at a loss.

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      Naaah, just privatized suicide services. Oh wait, we have those, we call them long term care.

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      No, that we get rid of maid specifically. Maybe review everything, but the tax paid healthcare seems to work as a whole. It just has a few issues that need to be addressed, just like any other system

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        We can’t just get rid of it, as the SCC has ruled that MAID is a constitutional right.