• scrion@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    These are behaviors to attract a mate, so they serve a function and trigger an evolutionary response in the mate to be attracted. Just because the patterns and structures appear pleasing to us does not make them art.

    There are pieces that are visually unappealing, but are with certainty still considered art.

    I’d compile a list of different definitions of art (Beardsley, Danto, Dickie, Ranciere, Stock, Carroll, Zangwill etc.) and see if, given the context, the fabrications and behaviors of animals could be considered art - I’ve had similar conversations in the past and would love to take your position, but a better argument needs to be made in order to support that claim. Should I get a chance to do that homework anytime soon, I’ll update this post.

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      5 months ago

      I mean, I can paint someone a picture with the hope of getting laid, it’s still art.

      Sex aside, producing art still satisfies other evolutionary responses like boredom.

      None of that’s a deal-breaker to be considered ‘art’.

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        5 months ago

        Generally: Necessity and sufficiency

        Not every painted picture becomes art. But before we dive into the discussion, let’s talk semantics: if you’re talking about art in the context of the expression or manifestation of an artistic skill or handicraft, then sure, the intricate products created by animals as part of their mating rituals are artworks.

        However, so is every crayon painting created by a toddler in kindergarten. If that’s what you’d like to talk about, I’m with you.