I saw a question elsewhere and it made me wonder… this dude basically posted asking what the heck is wrong with people who play Diablo IV and don’t min-max, and asking how that could possibly be fun. What are y’all’s thoughts?
I’m kinda torn. I don’t like it, personally. If I have my druthers, I like to set up my characters with things that I think are fun and look cool, not necessarily things that are best/most powerful etc. It’s interesting how so many people want every player wearing the exact same gear, using the exact same things (even in the exact same order for some games!)… For a lot of people, their whole goal seems to be to clear rooms as fast as humanely possible, to get to the end and beat the boss as fast as humanely possible so you can see what he drops, lather rinse repeat. I’m like, do you even enjoy playing the game? That feels like work to me. I prefer to take it slow because I like playing the game; I don’t really want to be one-shotting everything all the time, because I I like a challenge, and I often prefer gear that looks cool af over gear that is qualitatively “the best”.
However, I do understand that I’m in the minority on that, or so it seems, and I don’t want to end up with a character that no one will raid with, getting kicked for using the “wrong” gear and skills. In that respect in multiplayer games, I feel pressured to fall in line (assuming I make it to the end game, lol).
What are you guys’ thoughts?
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Guides are really helpful for finding interesting synergies between skills and aspects and whatnot, without having to theorycraft. I find it difficult to enjoy a build unless I understand all those synergies.
So the guides actually enhance my appreciation of the game because they help me discover builds that work, and thus builds that I enjoy.
Interesting. I like to figure that out on my own but we all have preferences.
I also like to look cool, and get more enjoyment out of finding a playstyle I like, rather than following a meta.
That said, ARPG’s are definitely a numbers game, depending on how far you want to go. If all you want to do is world events in WT4 and regular dungeons, you can play whatever spec you want.
If you want to kill Uber Lilith and push super high tier Nightmare dungeons (especially solo), you’ll likely have to rely on the theorycrafters who crunch the numbers for the most optimal setup.
I’m happy to play a spec I find fun, even if it means I can’t push super high. It just depends on what’s makes the game fun for you
I’m with ypu, I play what I find fun. Now of course as time goes I try to develop it to something effective but fun is the endgame.
I dont like looking at wikis or build guides to tell me how to play a video game. If i want to smash my dick on an anvil for 4 hours by trying to get bone spear, corpse explosion and blood spells to work then it means i’m having fun with it.
If people “must do max damage and kill all enemies on-sight” then good for them, I just wont invite them to my parties. I play Diablo for the story believe it or not. Which is why I even played through the arcade game called Diablo 3. I have no interest in making a competitive PVP character with one of 2 viable build options.
You can use Min-Maxing to make off-meta and suboptimal builds work.
Optimise your gear, your defense or you attribues (less in D3+) so that “unplayable” skills can be used.
I think it could be fun to try to find better skill builds and “broken” combos, but the UI makes it so incredibly tedious to change abilities and paragon points so currently I don’t enjoy the process… Right now min-maxing for me would to be to look up some other person’s build and copy that
Another thing with Diablo is that gameplay gets pretty repetitive, especially with some builds, so I prefer to use something less than optimal if it makes combat a bit more interactive.
I enjoy trying to break the game with the best gear/skills until games become too easy, then I go for looks.
Thing is, I enjoy it. You do you. I have more respect for players who like the challenge and wear whatever than the guy min-maxing like I sometimes do.
However, when it comes to coop games. I understand why some people wouldn’t want to team up with you. Just make a group of like minded friends. You do you.
Well put! Just play and let play. I think what I’m going to end up doing is min-maxing my druid, and then playing my necromancer for looks and coolness lol.
