Forgive the click-baity title and the fact this is from The Race. I thought it was still an interesting article about a topic that hasn’t gotten a lot of coverage.

I really hope they can figure out something to enable true wet weather racing.

  • bhmnscmm@lemmy.worldOP
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    11 months ago

    As far as I know the only reason F1 regulations require open-wheel designs is because of tradition, not because it has any performance benefit. When F1 cars were much simpler (50s and 60s) the fastest design paradigm was skinny open wheels, but as aero has become a bigger consideration open wheels have become a hindrance (from a performance standpoint).

    I suppose the root question is how much of F1 regulations should be based in tradition and how much should be based in performance. Would an all electric RB2010 type car out-perform a traditional F1 car? Probably. Would it still be an “F1 car ™” though? Well, that’s subjective.

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      11 months ago

      Ahhhh traditions. The anchor of progress. I would really like if someone gave me a proper reason as to why open wheels are desirable apart from, and even that would be a stretch, looks. Not that it would be proper anyway.

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        Weight is one big reason for sticking with open wheel design. The cars are already too big and heavy. Any regulation change that will increase the weight is probably not going to be considered at this point.

        And you can allow for nose to tail racing with open wheels. Formula E is open wheel and has almost no issue with dirty air.

        Overall I would say full wet races are so rare that changing away from open wheel just for that wouldn’t be good for the sport.

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          Formula E generates waaaaay less downforce compared to F1 to reduce drag thus save battery. And they generally race at lower speed street circuits.

          This big open wheel dirty air problem don’t really bother them even without specific designs or regulations.

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          11 months ago

          I was speaking of aero issues mainly, not only wet racing. And is there really no other places where cars could be lightened? Like the whole hybrid drivetrain has to be heavier than two thin carbon fenders no? So sorry but I feel like the weight argument is so easily worked around I can’t believe it’s the only reason. And they would be what 30kg and that’s pushing, this is not formula breaking weight.

          And formula e has wheel fenders.

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      11 months ago

      Just looked it up. Looks fine. Just make them fragile enough to keep that open wheel style racing (no rubbing). If it does improve the racing all the haters and purists won’t matter. Same thing as the halo. If they want rubbing action like formula E, make them sturdier.

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        11 months ago

        I lean towards your perspective too.

        There’s definitely a fine line that differentiates F1 from other series, but it’s hard to put into words exactly where that line should be drawn. Personally, I’m more interested in performance and engineering innovation than preserving tradition.