israel starts firebombing and nuking people… continues to buy weapons from other countries, and takes over more territory in order to defend what they have.
you really think it was biden doing all of this for the better part of the last century? he can’t stop it… but he could definitely stop supporting it….
No, those are not part of the definition of fascism.
Try this link and this one to start, if you want to educate yourself on the topic. Then if you still believe the Democratic Party fulfills the definition of fascist, come back and tell us which characteristics you think makes it so.
Aside from contempt for liberalism there’s no difference, and Biden’s contempt for the left more than makes up for it. It’s more accurately neoliberal, but has a lot in common with fascism and you refuse to see it. That’s why he’s doing genocide and brutalizing people protesting against it. Similar ideologies produce similar outcomes.
Words have meaning in political discourse, and no, they’re not.
They’re neo-liberals. Both fascism and neo-liberalism are totalitarian. The former is also authoritarian. And their ways of totalizing are different.
Neo-liberalism appropriates everything that’s not itself and turns it into a commodity. This is its form of totalitarianism; colonialism and cultural appropriation for the sake of the ‘market’. I.e. theft.
Fascism extinguishes everything that’s not itself. That is its form of totalitarianism, genocide. I.e. murder.
Neither one particularly plays well with others (hence them both being totalitarian). And both are willing to steal and both are willing to murder. But the end goals of each are much different and fascism is much worse, as you know as a jewish person.
And a Trump presidency would be a fascist one. With Trans people first on the chopping block after Trump’s political enemies.
So, no. Both sides are not the same. And I’m also frustrated with the democrats. But yes, this is harm reduction. A neo-liberal or a fascist. Thieves or psychopaths. Those are the choices. Or vote third party. Or don’t vote. But in November, we know it will be Biden or Trump who gets the nomination.
I’ll vote for the thief personally. Because I practice harm reduction and live in a swing state.
Thank you for understanding the reality of the situation and voting accordingly.
I agree, Neo-liberal is a more accurate label for the democrats. Thanks for taking the time to educate about the difference between the parties. Unfortunately, unless these “democrats are fascists too” people learn to understand the differences and act accordingly [1], they’re going to learn the hard way what fascism really is, and we’ll all suffer for it. For a very long time.
[1] “accordingly” means, accept the reality that either the D party or the R party will be in power in less than a year, and vote for the lesser of two evils (the non-fascist, but yes neo-liberal, D party).
This is a divided country. Almost half the people this country are right wing, and they vote. They vote for who they want in the primary, then they vote for whoever the R is in the general–and it works. Their party has moved more and more to the right.
But too many progressives don’t follow through in the general if their preferred candidate loses the primary, considering the winning candidate not “good enough” to “deserve” their votes, so the D either loses or barely wins. D politicians have learned well that they can’t count on left wing voters, so to have a chance of winning they must move right to capture more center or conservative voters, and thus the D party as a whole has also moved right. If the D party instead learned that standing for progressive values would get them enough votes to win, that’s what they would do.
We started to see that in 2022. They had actually been afraid to stand up for abortion rights until they saw some election results showing they could win on it, now they’re loudly standing up for it. Show them they can win with a progressive stance on other issues as well, and things will start changing. Slowly at first, then quickly.
Uhhhh sorry I’m still going to vote against fascism.
Yeah like these things will improve under Trump. Ranked choice voting will go a long way to combat the 2 party system.
You’re voting for polite fascism to stop rude fascism.
Biden isn’t a fascist and you’re an idiot if you think so.
There’s a lot more to fascism than you just not liking him.
He’s doing genocide.
Netanyahu is doing genocide.
And J’Biden is giving him unlimited bombs and bullets and tank shells to make it possible.
He’s also protecting Israel from retaliation from its neighbors and other regional powers.
The genocide would end without US support. You are voting for genocide and I won’t let you wash your hands of this.
the genocide would not stop without US support… it has been ongoing with and without their support for quite a while….
really, when they’re low on bombs they start just burning buildings….
see also, the history of the Palestine-Israel conflict:
https://youtu.be/U3by9FoEFB8
Without US support the bombing would stop, but more importantly, all of Israel’s neighborhoods would be empowered to step in.
The US attacks the Houthis to protect Israel’s economy. What happens if the US declares they will no longer protect Israel?
israel starts firebombing and nuking people… continues to buy weapons from other countries, and takes over more territory in order to defend what they have.
You think the moniker Genocide Joe is just a jab? You really think Joe Biden isn’t fully complicit?
You’re an absolutely perfect shitlib specimen.
yes, also it’s stupid.
he is fully complicit.
you really think it was biden doing all of this for the better part of the last century? he can’t stop it… but he could definitely stop supporting it….
The democrats are also fascists :l no politician will save you
Fascist is a word with an actual meaning. I know it’s fun to call the democrats fascists, but that’s incorrect and ridiculous.
So doing genocide and cracking down on free speech isn’t fascist?
No, those are not part of the definition of fascism.
Try this link and this one to start, if you want to educate yourself on the topic. Then if you still believe the Democratic Party fulfills the definition of fascist, come back and tell us which characteristics you think makes it so.
Aside from contempt for liberalism there’s no difference, and Biden’s contempt for the left more than makes up for it. It’s more accurately neoliberal, but has a lot in common with fascism and you refuse to see it. That’s why he’s doing genocide and brutalizing people protesting against it. Similar ideologies produce similar outcomes.
fascism DOES gave a definition written by Mussolini. democrats fit the bill.
They just hear us say it about them so they assume it’s just a bad word to throw at people you don’t like, similar to doo doo head, or fart sniffer.
Yes because it is right wingers saying “the lesser evil is still fascist”
Please consider expressing internally consistent ideas.
Wait who do you think “they” is in this sentence? Do you think people here are arguing to vote for Trump?
They would be anyone who says “Dems are fascist”
They are fascists though.
Democrats are closer to Vichy than Fascista
Words have meaning in political discourse, and no, they’re not.
They’re neo-liberals. Both fascism and neo-liberalism are totalitarian. The former is also authoritarian. And their ways of totalizing are different.
Neo-liberalism appropriates everything that’s not itself and turns it into a commodity. This is its form of totalitarianism; colonialism and cultural appropriation for the sake of the ‘market’. I.e. theft.
Fascism extinguishes everything that’s not itself. That is its form of totalitarianism, genocide. I.e. murder.
Neither one particularly plays well with others (hence them both being totalitarian). And both are willing to steal and both are willing to murder. But the end goals of each are much different and fascism is much worse, as you know as a jewish person.
And a Trump presidency would be a fascist one. With Trans people first on the chopping block after Trump’s political enemies.
So, no. Both sides are not the same. And I’m also frustrated with the democrats. But yes, this is harm reduction. A neo-liberal or a fascist. Thieves or psychopaths. Those are the choices. Or vote third party. Or don’t vote. But in November, we know it will be Biden or Trump who gets the nomination.
I’ll vote for the thief personally. Because I practice harm reduction and live in a swing state.
Biden is doing genocide, what are you talking about?
voting is not harm reduction
Anything that reduces harm, is by definition, harm reduction.
harm reduction is a specific thing, and voting is not harm reduction.
K
Thank you for understanding the reality of the situation and voting accordingly.
I agree, Neo-liberal is a more accurate label for the democrats. Thanks for taking the time to educate about the difference between the parties. Unfortunately, unless these “democrats are fascists too” people learn to understand the differences and act accordingly [1], they’re going to learn the hard way what fascism really is, and we’ll all suffer for it. For a very long time.
[1] “accordingly” means, accept the reality that either the D party or the R party will be in power in less than a year, and vote for the lesser of two evils (the non-fascist, but yes neo-liberal, D party).
This is a divided country. Almost half the people this country are right wing, and they vote. They vote for who they want in the primary, then they vote for whoever the R is in the general–and it works. Their party has moved more and more to the right.
But too many progressives don’t follow through in the general if their preferred candidate loses the primary, considering the winning candidate not “good enough” to “deserve” their votes, so the D either loses or barely wins. D politicians have learned well that they can’t count on left wing voters, so to have a chance of winning they must move right to capture more center or conservative voters, and thus the D party as a whole has also moved right. If the D party instead learned that standing for progressive values would get them enough votes to win, that’s what they would do.
We started to see that in 2022. They had actually been afraid to stand up for abortion rights until they saw some election results showing they could win on it, now they’re loudly standing up for it. Show them they can win with a progressive stance on other issues as well, and things will start changing. Slowly at first, then quickly.