Members of the uncontacted Hongana Manyawa tribe in Indonesia have been filmed recently confronting developers who tear up their forest.

Logging and mining operations on the Indonesian island are now penetrating the rainforest of uncontacted Hongana Manyawa people.

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    8 months ago

    Being mad at both only helps the oil barons. Maybe we can wait until we aren’t setting off a new feedback loop every month before trying to make cars out of sunlight.

    Resource extraction and vehicles are going to be a part of our society for a long time. I hate cars but anyone saying “green” ev vehicle with those quotes is the enemy.

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      8 months ago

      Well no, our future is public transport, if we don’t kill ourselves first, which we will.

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        8 months ago

        Yes, 100%. But switching to ev right now is literally how we don’t kill ourselves first.

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          8 months ago

          By using gas and coal energy to mine lithium and nickel? Destroying millions of acres of forest in the process and contaminating God knows how much land and water?

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            8 months ago

            Like I said, we can concentrate on making cars out of sunshine after we aren’t pumping death into the atmosphere.

            Normal cars take resources as well to build and keep polluting non stop after they are built. Even worse, the resources they need just to run are fucking terrible for the environment to extract and use, not to mention the spills. There’s no contest, gas is always worse.

            We don’t have time to transition to only public transport while keeping our dependence on oil.

            It’s either EVs now and a public transport future, or gas induced suicide.

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                8 months ago

                Whats funny is that is also a big oil talking point. Either climate change doesn’t exist and EVs are stupid, or climate change does exist but it’s too late so it doesn’t matter what we drive. You are being manipulated into having no hopes so the profits keep rolling in, nice.

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                  8 months ago

                  I think cars in general are bad. I think fossil fuel executives should be shot. I don’t think you know my opinions as well as you think you do lol.