• Fizz
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    7 months ago

    If this post was made around oct7th then it’s reasonable. If this post was made recently then…

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      7 months ago

      Not even if it was made on October 8th tbh. It’s one thing to want to help the victims of a terrorist attack, but to specifically pledge all “necessary” support to the Israeli GOVERNMENT including the IDF is NOT acceptable at any moment in the last 75 years.

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        7 months ago

        Ahh yes, because Israel is always the aggressor; and Hamas, and its precursor organizations were 100% the victims every time.

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          7 months ago

          No matter who attacks first in any given case, the Israeli government is committing genocide on a people already put in an open air prison, killing at least double (by their own likely low estimate) the number of civilians, mostly children, as Hamas terrorists.

          And that’s not even counting the deaths they’re causing via keeping food, water, medication and medical treatment from the people.

          This isn’t Israel Vs Hamas. It’s the Israeli government perpetrating a laundry list of human rights population on the people of Gaza using Hamas as a completely disingenuous pretext.

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            7 months ago

            So you are essentially saying Hamas can do whatever they want on the basis that they aren’t Israel.

            Yikes.

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              7 months ago

              Nope. I am categorically against terrorism under any and all circumstances.

              You can condemn the actions of both Hamas and the Israeli government. In fact, it’s morally and ethically reprehensible not to.

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                7 months ago

                Good. In the future just say something along these lines so that people aren’t getting the mistaken impression you are pro-hamas. Sadly, there are quite a few people on this site that description applies to, and believe me, you do not want to get mixed up for being one of those guys, like boomer or core.

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                  7 months ago

                  In the future just say something along these lines so that people aren’t getting the mistaken impression you are pro-hamas

                  No. It’s not reasonable to demand that every criticism of the genocide mentions Hamas. Just like you’d never agree to add “and the IDF are awful too” every time you condemn Hamas.

                  No reasonable person automatically infers “I like Hamas” from any criticism of the genocidal actions of the Israeli government.

                  Sadly, there are quite a few people on this site that description applies to

                  Without a doubt fewer than you think/pretend to think.

                  believe me

                  Like with Trump, a Zionist saying that is usually indicative of a lie or, at best, a distortion of the truth is coming or directly preceded those words.

                  do not want to get mixed up for being one of those guys

                  Luckily, nobody arguing in good faith has ever made that mistake since I’ve never said anything positive about the terrorist group Hamas.

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    7 months ago

    Not even if it was made on October 8th tbh. It’s one thing to want to help the victims of a terrorist attack, but to specifically pledge all “necessary” support to the Israeli GOVERNMENT including the IDF is NOT acceptable at any moment in the last 75 years.

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      7 months ago

      Man, if you want an eye for an eye, Israel is currently in eye debt. Best not promote that kinda talk, lest people cheer when it’s your eye on the table.

      Don’t be a genocidal fucking monster bruv

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        7 months ago

        Dude eye for a eye your not counting the multiple times they have tryed to wipe us off the face of the planet they have been killing us since before Bible aka as the torra was written we have been raped pillaged murderd genocide multiple times and we won’t be driven from our home again.

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          7 months ago

          Yes and Moses sid split the sea in two and sucked goat milk from the tits. Bro stop acting like Jewish people share a unique common ancestor it’s all BS. People converted to Judaism as much as people converted to Christianity and as much as people converted to Islam. There’s probably Muslims in the middle east who is more related to early believers of Judaism than most israelis.

          People like you share a lot of ideas with people who believe in race biology. 🤮